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perdurabo

Lifer
Jun 3, 2015
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Yea, the search engine sucks. I too think the links are lazy, which are a sign of the times. But, keep asking the question till you get an answer. Throw that thread back to the top.

 
I think that we all come here for answers and stay for the camaraderie. If we just posted links, we would lose them and that special panache. But, I do like to read through old threads when they get posted It actually "almost" made me miss you, Harris, ha ha.
well... camaraderie and the finger sandwiches. :puffy:

 

nevadablue

Lifer
Jun 5, 2017
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4
English again... fingers have way too many bones to make good sandwich filler. Canned tuna is much better. Or smoked salmon.

 

zack24

Lifer
May 11, 2013
1,726
2
Harris, I thought you had a 5 year sentence for that little problem with you smuggling 20 tons of tobacco out of Europe for your cellar...Damn glad you got out early! Need to get you back to the house so you can slap your toothless gums on my pipes and gripe about the lousy stemwork...:)

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
45,238
119,154
Links provide a lot of immediate information to an OP without having to wait all day for replies. Following posts can build on the link, and new thoughts on the subject can be added. Not being insensitive, just trying to get information readily available for the question.

 

wyfbane

Lifer
Apr 26, 2013
5,369
4,685
Tennessee
I seldom link previous threads because I like human interaction as well. That said, I don't fault people who do it.
I think the mood around here is much different than it was before your break. I see more whining from some and the base mood is just a bit gruff. I think of the overall vibe as having resting bitch face, even when they aren't that cranky.

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
45,238
119,154
Links also keep single subject, multiple threads, and clutter down. If those older threads weren't meant for referencing, they would have been deleted. By providing links to older, like minded threads, the discussion can continue.

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
45,238
119,154
I think of the overall vibe as having resting bitch face, even when they aren't that cranky.
catfaceglare.jpg


 

wizhunter

Starting to Get Obsessed
Oct 31, 2017
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0
Being a new pipesmoker i don't mind being given the answer to a question via a link, infact i kind of expect it knowing that the question has been answered a good few times. As long as the link has the required information i don't see any problem. Sometimes(maybe not on this forum) i have been given links that a broken or don't exist,now that is annoying.
Wiz

 

kola

Lifer
Apr 1, 2014
1,553
2,406
Colorado Rockies, Cripple Creek region
Over the years here I've found this forum very cliquey, and unwelcoming overall. A "Good 0l' Boy" crowd is the feeling I get (and I openly stated that in one of my posts years back) There's a few good eggs here but most "in the circle" have a gruffy, snobby attitude, ignore many of the newer posters comments and are quick to snap at ya if you ruffle some feathers or question the norm. And in some cases they'll let the dogs out on a guy and make it clear that they are in charge.
And people wonder why some of the best guys have left here ? I saw the same thing happen on an another pipe forum. A snobby clique crowd where 8 or so guys ran the roost, it finally crashed and burned. There's some good info here on pipes and tobaco but I don't visit here often for the reasons stated.
OK now here's your open invitation boys to attack me and make me look like a fool. It's what this place is very good at.

 

bluegrassbrian

Your Mom's Favorite Pipe Smoker
Aug 27, 2016
6,672
64,510
41
Louisville
Anything I could have added to this thread has been covered.

So I'd just like to say hello to cigrmaster and welcome back.

 
OK now here's your open invitation boys to attack me and make me look like a fool. It's what this place is very good at.

Yes, I think there are some of us that have become friends over the years, so yes it is cliquish, but I think everything is, where people are involved. I tend to be the outlier in that everyone attacks me, ha ha.
I think I have heard that between the Radioshow and the forum this place is intended to be like a pipeclub for men who do not live near a place that has a pipeclub. And, I can tell you that pipe/cigar lounges are exactly the same, the ones that I have been to. We bust each other's chops in good fun and slap backs, while hee'n and haw'n. It's fun, and meant to build camaraderie while being helpful. Yeh, maybe sometimes it gets to be too much, or someone gets their feelings hurt. Sometimes we may just misjudge a post altogether. Some of the bigwigs on here have become like forum Godfathers, untouchables. I just try to never respond to their posts, while others feel the need to feed those people's egos, a kiss of the ring, so to speak. But, all in all, I think that everyone here wants to be helpful, encouraging, and "good" people.
Things that have humans involved are going to be imperfect. Pipe smoking is imperfect. It happens. People that tend to lose their temper over some words on a forum don't last long. But, as the numbers speak, this forum is far from becoming extinct. It seems to have that je ne sais pas that keeps people coming back. Keep giving us a try. We appreciate you being a member here, and while we respect you and your questions or responses, some of us are going also be human and try to lighten the mood. Hopefully, we moderators can step in when the confusion happens between being helpful and having fun, or weed out those that just want to cause problems.

 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
12,912
21,599
SE PA USA
I saw the same thing happen on an another pipe forum. A snobby clique crowd where 8 or so guys ran the roost, it finally crashed and burned.
Yeah, some of us know exactly which former pipe forum that you are talking about. And we also know that forum had serious structural, organizational and personality disorders from the very beginning. It was born to fail, and fail it did.
Comparing that forum to Kevin's efforts here is a non-starter. Two entirely different things.
"but if you invite that kind of reaction you're likely to get it on any forum"
Sage Observation of the Week right there, Anthony.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,263
30,341
Carmel Valley, CA
So, links are good, but especially newbies should get at least some personalized attention. (?)
Kola- Have you been ignored? Sorry. I try to not ignore anyone, except the few who are annoying- but they get plenty of attention anyhow.

 

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
7,804
8,582
Sunny Cornwall, UK.
Do be minded that it is not only the OP who initially asks the question who reads the replies. I have often stumbled upon threads that though I haven't personally participated in, I have found in them some very useful links posted.
Indeed, links to other threads can also be laden with yet more interesting links and so thus I have often had several hours reading and learning.
Keep those links coming chaps :puffy:
Regards,
Jay.

 

crashthegrey

Lifer
Dec 18, 2015
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Cobleskill, NY
www.greywoodie.com
Honestly, to Kola's point, when you are first starting out it is easy to feel a little ignored. Comments from a new guy sometimes seem to just end a thread. People have a certain way of talking around here, and when you don't get it, you feel left out. However, it is a shame for people like Kola who take it personally and only pop in from time to time. I found that if I kept posting, and kept reading, eventually I was finding the groove, the flow of conversation. And the personalities that make this forum great. At a cursory glance, this forum can seem a little unwelcoming, but like any pipe club, social circle, job, or any other social interaction in general, you have to make the time to understand the group. I'm now pushing 1000 posts and still feel like the new guy most of the time. It's not a bad thing. It's that people in this group become genuine friends, and it takes time to build up to that.

 
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