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gawithhoggarth

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Every time I read that, I am jealous of those British Tobacco companies. They have such assurance that their customers will continue to buy from then no matter what that they can just be outright assholes. To be so obtuse to the fact that their customers prefer their products aged, and be so arrogant about it also. I've just stopped buying anything from Britain.
But it's "some" customers that prefer aged. It's also rather arrogant for those that age to have the belief that every consumer prefers aged tobacco and that they should be solely catered for.
 
But it's "some" customers that prefer aged. It's also rather arrogant for those that age to have the belief that every consumer prefers aged tobacco and that they should be solely catered for.
My response was to...
">Please do not be a "cellarer<" unless you are willing to admit that you think that you can do better."

I have no wish to debate with you . I am not sure why you would quote me directly unless you are either confused about what I was saying, or you wish to start an argument. I am starting to understand (and sorta jealous) that companies in your area of the world have the luxury of talking in a certain way to customers...

I hope it was all merely a misunderstanding, and hopefully, I have cleared it up. Have a good day.
 

theloniousmonkfish

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But it's "some" customers that prefer aged. It's also rather arrogant for those that age to have the belief that every consumer prefers aged tobacco and that they should be solely catered for.
Fresh Grasmere is better to my tastes. Does that one still come to the states? Been years since seeing any.
 

BriarsAndBottles

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I didn’t buy a 30 year old tin so it could get even older lol. I bought it because I wanted to experience something that seemed worth experiencing. Do you guys only see movies in the theatres? Or do you watch movies that others have watched previously based on recommendations or reviews?
 
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jguss

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But it's "some" customers that prefer aged. It's also rather arrogant for those that age to have the belief that every consumer prefers aged tobacco and that they should be solely catered for.

I would expand the perspective underlying that statement to say that in almost every case the world would be a better place if people limited their opinions to what’s best for themselves. Arrogance is not a monopoly of some subset of pipesmokers who like aged tobacco. It’s rife among consumers (and manufacturers) of all kinds.

To be as clear as I know how to be the problem isn’t with liking or disliking aging tobacco. The problem is arrogance, which can be found everywhere there are human beings. Including apparently on the Isle of Jersey.
 

woodsroad

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New Jersey, too.
I mean, you're pretty arrogant to suggest that it's this broad swath of "arrogant" people arrogantly faffing things up in the world. That's Arrogance Baiting, something that, if I may be so arrogant to suggest, only the arrogant do.
 

FLDRD

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I can't believe no one asked to see pictures so everyone could give their opinion of plume vs. mold.

That's what's seemed to occur every other time the topic of potential mold came up...
 
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woodsroad

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I can't believe no one asked to see pictures so everyone could give their opinion of plume vs. mold.

That's what's seemed to occur every other time the topic of potential mold came up...
We definitely need some new words to describe things that we don't know what they are.
 

AJL67

Lifer
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Yeah, but is it? It’s a made up word for something that nobody knows what it is.
Over the decades of smoking cuban cigars, and a lot of vintage well cared for cigars from the 60s-70s-80s I've never seen "plume" I've seen "dust" on cigars usually out of old balsa boxes and to me it was just balsa dust, i have seen what's called "stripper glitter" that is a yellowish crystal structure on the cigars, it's very sparkly under a light or out in the sun, i have a box of 1970s LFDC Selectos in cello that have it on them, i take one a year with me to a socal cigar herf with friends as something of a conversation peace and to smoke. If I'm feeling not lazy later i'll dig out the box and take a video under light, pictures don't really show it off in it's glory, have to roll it back and forth. Sage wisdom says it's sugars and oils in the wrapper that crystallized, not mold looking, not "plume" or "bloom" or any other such thing. It's still cool though LOL
 
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AJL67

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So i was feeeling energetic and dug out the box. Sadly the site craps up video to save band width but it’s free so whatever. You can still kind of see it in the video.

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seems their embedded player doesn't like a 8 yr old version of safari lol hopefully it works for you and if there's interest ill find a better place and host a 4k vid.. it is kind of cool lol
 

BriarsAndBottles

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Over the decades of smoking cuban cigars, and a lot of vintage well cared for cigars from the 60s-70s-80s I've never seen "plume" I've seen "dust" on cigars usually out of old balsa boxes and to me it was just balsa dust, i have seen what's called "stripper glitter" that is a yellowish crystal structure on the cigars, it's very sparkly under a light or out in the sun, i have a box of 1970s LFDC Selectos in cello that have it on them, i take one a year with me to a socal cigar herf with friends as something of a conversation peace and to smoke. If I'm feeling not lazy later i'll dig out the box and take a video under light, pictures don't really show it off in it's glory, have to roll it back and forth. Sage wisdom says it's sugars and oils in the wrapper that crystallized, not mold looking, not "plume" or "bloom" or any other such thing. It's still cool though LOL
For any others that thought you were making up a word: Herfs - https://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/cigar-library/herfstimeline.htm#:~:text=WHAT%20IS%20A%20HERF%3F,still%20really%20enjoy%20the%20Herf.
 

AJL67

Lifer
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Mitchell LOL one person is not a herf, it's a guy smoking a cigar, I've actually herfed with him in LA a couple times, i could tell you what i think of him but not something to share on the board or with people not in my close group who amazingly all feel the same. Been using the term herf for over 20 years, just popped into existence one day and no one can say where or when, it just spontaneously appeared, even 420 was hunted down to the group of kids that came up with it, alas herf remains a mystery. I'm heading to a herf in October which is the herf (annual herfs have names and people sign up and it's a big thing this one is about 40 or 50 people all meeting up in the LA area, actually the first place i met MO was at that herf a few years ago LOL ).

OH and I bought that box of Selectos in one of his auctions when prices were normal and no one went after partial boxes, I got this one for like 100 bucks with 16 sticks in it or something around there. The good old days.
 
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