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brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
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As someone said somewhere, how about we start flattening the curve of fear already?

The "MSM" loves to promote the perception that all credible experts agree with the "official narrative" on everything...but that is almost never really the case.

For those who can still think for themselves and consider all sides of things, here is an example of other voices that aren't normally heard by many.

12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic

 

docrameous

Can't Leave
May 6, 2019
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Colorado
Do you really believe China's claims??

Italy is probably more transparent, but still.

Good question. No, I don’t believe their claims for sure. I think any government is capable of concealing something in the name of what is best for national interests to prevent panic, protect national security, etc. I am not a conspiracy person, it is what history has shown over and over.

Actually, a perhaps bigger and more innocent problem is the quality of the data and so these league tables are likely not that accurate. The data is only as good as the methods of collection, definitions, etc. Modeling has a similar problem and if you go back to Ebola, some of the apocalyptic claims were no where even close. Now part of that was due to intervention, but modeling and reporting on something global like this is so complex because of the layers of assumptions you have to make and the number of fundamental flaws that can creep in.

What I take from this data is that this is a real disease that has come to pretty much every country in the world. Is the world ending? No for sure. But even a week ago I had friends that believed this was nothing and were in complete denial of how widespread this could get... I also have medical friends on the front line who have never seen what they are seeing as nothing like this has happened in their lifetimes. So as flawed as these data sets are for a variety of reasons, it becomes an indicator and catalyst which brings those two groups together so that we can focus all levels of society to tackle this.

This is not my field of study, but one thing seems clear that these are interesting times that sitting on the porch with a pipe is a good idea. Keep calm and smoke on!
 
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If this virus is so widespread now, how is anyone going to permanently avoid it? Is this the new way for human interaction? I don't think it's going to go away.

Hopefully.
The chaos caused by this global panic is expensive enough they could have funded a manned mission to mars, built a hundred super clean Nuclear reactors, and taken half the garbage out of the ocean.
The only way to make this event worthwhile is if people actually act like the virus is permanent and cold and flu transmission is cut down by 99% for the rest of forever.
 
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irishearl

Lifer
Aug 2, 2016
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There is no doubt that it is a fairly deadly disease, which, unfortunately warrants taking all reasonable, (and maybe some unreasonable), precautions. The tragic reality is that this most likely will come in waves of infection and, until an effective vaccine has been widely implemented, life as we've known it will continue to be seriously hampered.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,440
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Southern Oregon
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As someone who does think for himself, I like to check the sources of information.

Off-Guardian:

Then check some of the content:

Wodarg came first to the attention of a broader public in the 1980s when he was head of the Public Health Department (German: Gesundheitsamt) in Flensburg, Germany, and as such was (technically) responsible for employing a later famous medical impostor Gert Postel, by training a postman, as a doctor.[28]

You can do your own research on the others. I've got work to do.

According to the fashionable fringe far right, that makes me an "economic patriot". Tell your granny to get off her ass, grab her walker, and go out and help haul those corpses to the temporary morgues being set up in NYC.
 
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brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
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Thank you Sable, it took quite a bit longer than I expected, but I would have been so disappointed if no one had responded with the standard, mainstream, debunking of fringe bias. I start to get a little concerned when that doesn't happen fast enough...or, God forbid, at all. Makes me start to question things even more than I normally do.
 

olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
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The Arm of Orion
Thank you Sable, it took quite a bit longer than I expected, but I would have been so disappointed if no one had responded with the standard, mainstream, debunking of fringe bias. I start to get a little concerned when that doesn't happen fast enough...or, God forbid, at all. Makes me start to question things even more than I normally do.
Brian, you're being a fear-unmonger! Your posts are gonna cost the State powe— er, gonna cost the nati— er, it's open borders and sanctuary cities now, sorry; the world lives! Stop now! :eek::eek::eek::mad:

(Too bad that sanity is not contagious. ? )
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,440
52,310
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
Thank you Sable, it took quite a bit longer than I expected, but I would have been so disappointed if no one had responded with the standard, mainstream, debunking of fringe bias. I start to get a little concerned when that doesn't happen fast enough...or, God forbid, at all. Makes me start to question things even more than I normally do.
You're welcome! Always happy to be of service.
 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
10,175
16,556
If I were a crow, I would be pretty nervous right now. Cause it looks like someone is going to have to eat me in a couple months. I just don’t know who.

Don't worry crow...before anyone has to eat you the actual reality would have to be provable. And as with so many other "events" in the past, that's just not going to happen.

If you do get eaten it will most likely be by someone who's been out of work for months or years because of this.
 
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