For me it is both. I have to have that first pipe in the morning with coffee or I am a grumpy man. Other than that, it's a hobby. Even on the rare days I do not get to enjoy the pipe, it's not like I am jonesing all day for it.
Waxing (or maybe waning) philosophically: Hobby or habit?
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Ha, I am a fisherman too. Love it. But, my last attempts at having a friend show me how to fly fish, I ended up digging hooks out of everything from bark to ears.
Mr. English, long time no see. Good to see ya. I have never "jonesed" (if that's a real word) for the pipe. But, at times when I have been a long time away from smoking, the moment I think about smoking, or start walking towards my pipes or cellar, my sinuses will open up and congestion will clear up to make smoking easier for me. When I noticed that physiological change due to just thinking about smoking, I knew I was hooked.
I suppose in this context "habit" implies addiction. I'd say smoking pipes is a fairly minor addiction for me, though I see how it can easily develop into something more. If I had to go without a pipe for a month I doubt I'd smoke cigarettes to obtain my fix. I put it slightly below my coffee addiction. My body doesn't function in the morning until I've had a mug of coffee. I've not yet noticed similar effect from pipe smoking. However I have noticed that I get cranky if I don't have the opportunity to smoke a pipe for several days. I believe this is my most obvious symptom of nicotine withdrawal.
I believe that cigarettes and pipes aren't interchangeable at all. They aren't the same addiction. Taking smoke directly to the lungs is way different from the way cigars or pipes give you nicotine.
When I first came over from cigs, I wanted a cigarette after every pipe. It didn't fill the "need" at all. And, now after years without cigs, I think that although I can smoke heavy hitters in my pipe all day, a cigarette would make me sick.
Apples and Oranges.
When I first came over from cigs, I wanted a cigarette after every pipe. It didn't fill the "need" at all. And, now after years without cigs, I think that although I can smoke heavy hitters in my pipe all day, a cigarette would make me sick.
Apples and Oranges.
Good to know Cosmic. I assumed that when push comes to shove and the nit meets the grit, nicotine is nicotine as far as addiction goes. I've never been a regular cigarette smoker although I did smoke ryo sometimes back in my younger days. Sounds like you've had more experience with it.
I'm not so sure that it does, Seldom. I think if it was all about the nicotine, you and I would be lighting up all day long...but I'm an afternoon smoker only...in fact, I can't stand the smell of burnt tobacco, like cigarette tobacco, before about 1 or 2 pm. Do I like the nicotine when I do eventually light up? Most definitely, but its not why I light up (or again, I'd be doing it all day long). So to me, smoking a pipe is more a habit than an addiction...
I think you guys have hit on a huge difference here. I don't smoke for the nic hit like people do cigs. I smoke for several other reasons and that is a big difference between habit and hobby. I don't fly fish to have food,
I think you guys have hit on a huge difference here. I don't smoke for the nic hit like people do cigs. I smoke for several other reasons and that is a big difference between habit and hobby. I don't fly fish to have food, I don't have all these pipes just to fill a rack or buy new shotguns just because my safes have an empty space either but don't tell my wife.
Seldom, it could be just that you've formed a habit, that when you haven't done it in a while, you become more anxious. Like trout and I about fishing. When we make good cast after good cast, then we get mad because we make a few bad casts and end up in the trees, its because we broke the habit...not that we were addicted to the good casts.
No, nicotine is an addicting drug, and that you light up on the regular shows that you are an addict, addicted to that drug. You may look inside yourself and not find an addict, but science can, and science shows that nicotine is highly addicting. For whatever reason you deny your addiction, but each day's smoking says otherwise. The presence of an addicting drug and the presence of the behavior tied to it, smoking, are your objective proof.
Just not so. While I will grant that cigarettes are comparable to mainlining and pioesmoking a relaxed enjoyment. the point is that nicotine is brought into the body. It matters not that the mechanism of one is pulmonary and the other oral. Nicotine goes through the mucous membranes of the mouth quite easily.
I can see your point. Eco, I have learned how to sneak things into the safe so she never knows. If I get caught, I just say I've had it for years and just stared using it again for old times sake. She doesn't believe me but as long as I don't question her "habits" too much (and keep paying for them" ), she doesn't question me to closely.
Ahh, I see your point salted, but let me ask you this, since the effects of nicotine wear off so quickly, which is about 20 mins to 1 hour, why then aren't I lighting up all day long? Or at least every hour? (Mind you, I'm not talking about the chemical itself which can stay in your blood stream for days, just the buzz you get.)
Using Warren's greatly detailed system, I guess I am a serious hobby smoker. In that I smoke like a serious smoker but have a habit of showing off my pipes, of which there are probably a few too many, and definitely from some concentrated marques.
Ahh, the ole implied extortion agreement...what a great thing marriage is :D (My wife and I have the same agreement.)
There are some good points in this thread. I don't know. Something about any mind altering and potentially addicting drug seems to create a divide. Some define addiction as continuing something in spite of deleterious life consequences. Thus far I've not experienced any problems from pipe smoking.
On to a tangent!
Since fishing has been brought up a few times on this thread I'll mention that I was once an avid fly fisherman. A couple of events have caused me to enter a long lapse in fishing. One was ending up on a commercial fishing vessel as a deckhand in the Bering Sea. I killed a lot of fish. Another was watching a big wig biologist flown into the bush with my Cup'ik friend. The big wig would catch a fish and let it go. Catch another and let it go. My friend turned to me and said in his deadpan voice "I don't know if it's right to play with your food like that". I thought on that. In that hard landscape people still catch salmon in nets to subsist on. Catch and release seems a bit funny there.
That said I am thinking of getting back into it. I've two young sons, I still have an avid interest in aquatic entomology, and I think fly fishing will be a nice thing to do with them in the years to come. I'm a little put off by how popular fly fishing seems to have become. I don't recall seeing fly fishing bumper stickers a couple of decades ago and so many streams and rivers seem choked with people these days. Still, I fondly remember one of my last fish fly fishing was a 36.5 inch freshwater rainbow on a mouse imitation fly. Truly an impressive fish!
On to a tangent!
Since fishing has been brought up a few times on this thread I'll mention that I was once an avid fly fisherman. A couple of events have caused me to enter a long lapse in fishing. One was ending up on a commercial fishing vessel as a deckhand in the Bering Sea. I killed a lot of fish. Another was watching a big wig biologist flown into the bush with my Cup'ik friend. The big wig would catch a fish and let it go. Catch another and let it go. My friend turned to me and said in his deadpan voice "I don't know if it's right to play with your food like that". I thought on that. In that hard landscape people still catch salmon in nets to subsist on. Catch and release seems a bit funny there.
That said I am thinking of getting back into it. I've two young sons, I still have an avid interest in aquatic entomology, and I think fly fishing will be a nice thing to do with them in the years to come. I'm a little put off by how popular fly fishing seems to have become. I don't recall seeing fly fishing bumper stickers a couple of decades ago and so many streams and rivers seem choked with people these days. Still, I fondly remember one of my last fish fly fishing was a 36.5 inch freshwater rainbow on a mouse imitation fly. Truly an impressive fish!
I here ya Seldom! My wife and I were supposed to head to the Charleston SC area this week in our RV, the speckled trout (saltwater), big red drum and sheepshead are supposedly hitting big time...then this dang storm blew in and covered us in 16" of snow...damned yankee thing snow is...another discouraging word crash 8O
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