Warning Points System

[olkofri]

Mods don’t educate or change behavior. They say “quit being dumb”, whether it’s points or pms.
When it gets to the point that a mod has to step in, it’s already too far gone - shouldn’t have occurred in the first place.
Strikes, points, whatever, don’t be a jerk is the objective.

My point, yes.

What I'm simply trying to say is there's no need to overcomplicate things. I was thinking a list of 'offenders' and number of strikes can be kept in a sticky in the moderators forum and be quickly consulted. Then again, if the number of users is too large and so is said list, it might indeed be easier for a Xenforo algorithm to paste an X annotation on a member's profile, seen only by staff.

 

[alaskanpiper]

Sounds like a plan. At least then people know where they stand and aren't surprised when disciplinary action gets handed down. As long as it can be applied fairly and without bias. Whether it's a grouchy codger who has been around forever and is well respected in the community, or a new school young guy with penchant for trollish confrontation, being a dick is still being a dick. Value added and/or years of experience should not offset or excuse poor behavior. (Neither does being "right")

I just hope anyone (myself included) who may receive such warning points has the maturity to accept their own responsibility in whatever conflict may have arisen, make a change, and keep enjoying the nearly anomalous largely civil and pleasant discourse this forum offers.

 

[condorlover1]

Sounds reasonable to me but then I never really see anything bad over here at PM as most of the nightmares just shuffle off somewhere else.

 

[logs]

Question: does the new penal code allow for a citizen's arrest when witnessing wrong-doing?
(BROBS is wanting to know).

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

Will this be anything like the DMV and moving violations where we can pay money, take a Defensive Posting Seminar and then earn back some points?

 

[didimauw]

Funny thing is that this has been going on since the new forum. We're just now deciding to tell you about it.

 

[olkofri]

Question: does the new penal code allow for a citizen's arrest when witnessing wrong-doing?
(BROBS is wanting to know).

Hahaha!

Well, I hope you are joking of course. Scary if you're not, because that underscores my point about snitching only it's now taken to the point of vigilantism. Besides, due to the variegated nature of the members' stances/beliefs, it'd be chaos to let the populace determine what constitutes wrong-doing.

 

[didimauw]

Will this be anything like the DMV and moving violations where we can pay money, take a Defensive Posting Seminar and then earn back some points?

Yes make all fines payable to:

Didimauw
123 pipe st.

Oh NVM , no one will send me money anyways
....

 

[olkofri]

Yes make all fines payable to:

Didimauw
123 pipe st.

Oh NVM , no one will send me money anyways
....

You could always accept brib— er, fines in tubs of Carter Hall! ?

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

Yes make all fines payable to:

Didimauw
123 pipe st.

Oh NVM , no one will send me money anyways
....

Check is in the mail.

 

[didimauw]

Check is in the mail.

I certainly hope you are also prepaying for troubles in the future too! Just get it out of the way now! Hahaha

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

I certainly hope you are also prepaying for troubles in the future too! Just get it out of the way now! Hahaha

i think that’s a great idea since it seems inevitable. Kind of purchasing forgiveness points in advance. Can you give me a quote for a package of 10?

 

[olkofri]

Bulk discounts?

 

[alaskanpiper]

i think that’s a great idea since it seems inevitable. Kind of purchasing forgiveness points in advance. Can you give me a quote for a package of 10?

Haha yeah, couldn’t go wrong. No trouble ever resulted from selling indulgences......

 

[Magpiety]

Jerkposting ain't good, this sounds like a good system.

 

[python]

It sounds like some may be a little confused about the system. I may be wrong about that though, but I'll try to clear It up a little anyway.

Points are not automatically given by the forum software. They have to be given by a mod/admin.

When someone breaks the rules, a mod(s) will read what they posted and assess if the violation requires a warning point. If so one will be issued.

Simply reporting someone will not automatically issue a point. All reports are viewed before any actions are taken.

And trust me, if there is an instance where someone has an axe to grind and keeps frivolously reporting someone/people, the odds are more likely that they will be the one on the receiving end of the warning system.

People should only use the report feature for legitimate uses.

 

[python]

Also, the reason that we decided on the point system and the temporary bans is because we DON'T want to be extreme hard asses and we like to give people chances.

Everyone has bad days and sometimes flies off the handle or says something in the heat of the moment that they later regret. This will allow those people chances to cool down and collect themselves and try to prevent it from happening too many times.

But obviously, if someone manages to accrue points like they're collecting gold, then they are a problem and don't need to be here.

 

[Magpiety]

Haha yeah, couldn’t go wrong. No trouble ever resulted from selling indulgences......

As soon as a coin in the coffer rings
A banned soul back to the forums springs

 

[yaddy306]

Hahaha!

Well, I hope you are joking of course. Scary if you're not, because that underscores my point about snitching only it's now taken to the point of vigilantism.

I don't know what's wrong with me. The first time I read this post, I thought it said "taken to the point of veganism".

 

[captainsousie]

As a person who was told by a mod that he had nothing good to say and wasn't wanted here anymore and should just leave, I don't trust this system as it leaves it to this mod's discretion whether I remain. It leaves it open to targeting which people do whether or not it's right. That's human nature.

Of course this is the @admin playground so he decides who uses the swings and the slides but I wish there was at least a way to defend ourselves if we do something unintentionally. For example, @Pipelady20 got a warning point for I have no idea what and it looks like there is not any way to appeal.