Update on the STG Closure Of Sutliff and Mac Baren

[PaulDM]

It reminds me of the words of the zek in Jack Reacher: “Enough? There is no such thing. We take what can be taken. This is what we do.”

Actually, I have found pipe smokers to be quite amiable and generous for the most part. But there is a little of the “zek” in us all.

 

[Sobrbiker]

It reminds me of the words of the zek in Jack Reacher: “Enough? There is no such thing. We take what can be taken. This is what we do.”

Actually, I have found pipe smokers to be quite amiable and generous for the most part. But there is a little of the “zek” in us all.

I’ve been buying as I go, for me 8oz was a large amount, and happily doing so (I just caught the bug a couple years ago). It’s nice to have variety, and was even nicer to have found a couple favorites that I can happily enjoy without deciding what I want to smoke.
This latest market change did have me grab as much as I could afford of a couple of those as they suddenly had an expiration date.
I’ve got no interest in hoarding unknowns, but have definitely learned that I should have a couple years’ worth of anything that would hurt if it went away tomorrow and will be bolstering my cupboards accordingly.
I’m far from having a lifetime supply, and will be purchasing a moderate amount regularly until I do or the next impending doom moment I guess.

 

[Home Brewing Piper]

With the new 71% excise task here in WI, I can't afford to hoard even if I wanted to!

 

[AroEnglish]

With the new 71% excise task here in WI, I can't afford to hoard even if I wanted to!

You just need to make friends with people from nearby states

 

[Zamora]

That's any brand. As years go by, variations is crops happen as well as proportions of components.

With wine that's marketed as a feature not a bug lol, vintages

 

[AndyNJ]

With the new 71% excise task here in WI, I can't afford to hoard even if I wanted to!

I drive to PA, incredible...pipe tobacco = cheap

 

[Home Brewing Piper]

You just need to make friends with people from nearby states

My son will be moving to MN within a year. It's just the principle of the situation that is annoying.

 

[Brad H]

With the new 71% excise task here in WI, I can't afford to hoard even if I wanted to!

I can help ya out. Only a 70% handling fee……..
And shipping….

WI gave their state the raw end of the deal. Losing out on all that tax money.

 

[Elric]

I can help ya out. Only a 70% handling fee……..
And shipping….

WI gave their state the raw end of the deal. Losing out on all that tax money.

71% is positively ludicrous! I thought MI's 35% was bad!

 

[AroEnglish]

My son will be moving to MN within a year. It's just the principle of the situation that is annoying.

Yeah I can relate. We've got a tax in MI too which is not as high but still annoying:

As of January 1, 2022, the State of Michigan now imposes an Excise Tax of 32% of the wholesale price on all premium cigars and pipe tobacco sold online to Michigan residents, equating to an average retail price increase of 8%-11% — capping at a maximum of 50 cents per premium cigar. See Section 11 of Michigan Code 205.431. This excise tax is in addition to the sales/use tax already applied to tobacco products sold to Michigan residents. For more details on Michigan Excise Tax, review the law here.

 

[Mike N]

I have been a collector of vintage fly reels and tackle for over 40 years and have attended shows (National Fishing Lure Collectors Club, Old Reel Collectors Club, Florida Antique Tackle Collectors Club) and auctions throughout the US. In the process I‘ve made many lifelong friends. It’s given me incredible relaxation.

Yes, a quick glance at my vintage tackle collection may look like hoarding, but it’s been a great outlet from my professional life. I look at my pipe and tobacco collection much the same way, and at least I can smoke those. I wouldn’t think about fishing with one of my 150 year old split bamboo Orvis fly rods. I love attending the Chicago and Columbus Pipe shows and meeting other pipe enthusiasts and hope to make it to Las Vegas. Trust me, pipe and tobacco hoarding is a lot cheaper than the vintage autos, bourbons, wines, etc. my buddies seem so addicted to collecting. And, yes, the Sutliff/Mac Baren/STG situation will cause a lot of TAD, But hey, it’s your money. You earned it and shouldn’t apologize for spending it the way you want…unless you‘re the SOB who snagged that last tin of HH I had in my cart..

 

[Zamora]

71% is positively ludicrous! I thought MI's 35% was bad!

Here in Washington it's 95%

 

[AirOne]

Here is the list of Mac Baren blends axed in Germany.
7 Seas Series
Amphora Burley
Amphora Kentucky
Amphora No.2
Amphora No.8
MB Cube Silver
MB HH Pure Virginia
MB HH Bold Kentucky
MB HH Rustica
MB HH Vintage Latakia
MB HH Burley Flake
Planta Jacaranda
Kentucky Club
Königlich Preußisches Tabakskollegium Bleu + Rouge
MB Golden Ambrosia
MB Red Ambrosia
Meine Mischung Braun
Presbyterian
Planta Sans Souci
Van Halteren Black & Bright 40g
Wellauers English Blend

 

[Elric]

Here is the list of Mac Baren blends axed in Germany.
7 Seas Series
Amphora Burley
Amphora Kentucky
Amphora No.2
Amphora No.8
MB Cube Silver
MB HH Pure Virginia
MB HH Bold Kentucky
MB HH Rustica
MB HH Vintage Latakia
MB HH Burley Flake
Planta Jacaranda
Kentucky Club
Königlich Preußisches Tabakskollegium Bleu + Rouge
MB Golden Ambrosia
MB Red Ambrosia
Meine Mischung Braun
Presbyterian
Planta Sans Souci
Van Halteren Black & Bright 40g
Wellauers English Blend

Interesting. Given that Presbyterian (just as an example) hasn't been axed in the US, I can see a vigorous underground trade starting. We should be building a global list of what IS being distributed in each country.

 

[AroEnglish]

Interesting. Given that Presbyterian (just as an example) hasn't been axed in the US, I can see a vigorous underground trade starting. We should be building a global list of what IS being distributed in each country.

Make it happen!

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

Here is the list of Mac Baren blends axed in Germany.
7 Seas Series
Amphora Burley
Amphora Kentucky
Amphora No.2
Amphora No.8
MB Cube Silver
MB HH Pure Virginia
MB HH Bold Kentucky
MB HH Rustica
MB HH Vintage Latakia
MB HH Burley Flake
Planta Jacaranda
Kentucky Club
Königlich Preußisches Tabakskollegium Bleu + Rouge
MB Golden Ambrosia
MB Red Ambrosia
Meine Mischung Braun
Presbyterian
Planta Sans Souci
Van Halteren Black & Bright 40g
Wellauers English Blend

So I was quite right in my assumption, those standard pouched OTC Mc Barens blends which were already in production more over than 50 years will still remain and Amphora Red Full, Original Brown, Cland and St Bruno

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

Interesting. Given that Presbyterian (just as an example) hasn't been axed in the US, I can see a vigorous underground trade starting. We should be building a global list of what IS being distributed in each country.

once asked , I will bring rather a short list for Finland, Mc Barens Classic , Borkum Riff Bourbon(Brown)and Golden
Graf Gilbert Hamiltons Blanding, Clan Aromatics , Caravelle and Half&Half,those few tinned blends are only available at specialist tobacconist stores, aforementioned pouched blend at news agents shops. so that is that

 

[Skippy B. Coyote]

Interesting. Given that Presbyterian (just as an example) hasn't been axed in the US, I can see a vigorous underground trade starting. We should be building a global list of what IS being distributed in each country.

If someone in the EU wants to send a pouch of Condor Ready Rubbed to the US for me then I'll gladly send them a tin of Presbyterian Mixture or whatever they want that's available over here.

 

[Zamora]

Interesting. Given that Presbyterian (just as an example) hasn't been axed in the US, I can see a vigorous underground trade starting. We should be building a global list of what IS being distributed in each country.

What's available in what market is always changing. There was a long a period when Capstan and other British classics were yanked from the US market, so maybe Presbyterian will come back to Germany after a few years.

 

[Andre_T]

With the new 71% excise task here in WI, I can't afford to hoard even if I wanted to!

Make friends with a FIB. Ship it there.