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Scottishgaucho

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Jan 22, 2020
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Have you ever had a pleasant experience with the flavor of Tobacco smoke in any form? The way the original post is worded sounds like you're trying to smoke tobacco for the first time and don't like it.
A good point. As an infrequent pipe smoker when I was young it took me years before I started to appreciate the flavours. Experience gained through smoking more regularly certainly helped me.
 

OzPiper

Lifer
Nov 30, 2020
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Welcome from Sydney, Oz

May I ask which blends have you been trying ?

When I got back to smoking my pipes 3 years ago, Peterson's Connoisseur's Choice was the 1st blend I tried. It is an aromatic which will not bite, and is still one of my favourites.

Peterson's Irish Flake sat me down on my behind with my 1st bowl - it is much stronger in the nic department.

A friend kindly gave me samples of a few different blends to try. I found I really liked English/Balkan blends. Latakia and oriental tobaccos have a readily discernible "forward" flavour/taste and are quite easy to pick out.

Having "worked out" aromatics vs English/Balkan blends, I'm now getting to know Virginia/VaPer blends, as these are more subtle in flavour (my opinion).

Next on my list are Burleys and Cavendishes. I find it better to become familiar with one blend/genre before moving on to the next. Give the tobacco an opportunity to "imprint" itself in your olfactory bank.
 

Graham

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Jun 12, 2021
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Have you ever had a pleasant experience with the flavor of Tobacco smoke in any form? The way the original post is worded sounds like you're trying to smoke tobacco for the first time and don't like it.
Yes I have, many years ago I used to smoke cigarettes then went to cigars I also tried a pipe but life was somewhat hectic and the easy way out won. I picked up the pipe again and that’s all I smoke about 6 years ago just before retirement as now I have plenty of time. I have tasted tobacco recently but also the majority of times now it’s a bad taste, I think it may be the toppings / chemicals in the arro so will get some English blends again.
 

OzPiper

Lifer
Nov 30, 2020
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Sydney, Australia
Hi, it seems that what ever tobacco I smoke it all tastes the same, like an old full ashtray,
I have just had another thought.
Have you any issues with your sinuses or ongoing nasal allergy or hay-fever ?

Prior to extensive sinus surgery a few years ago, I constantly smelled smoke, despite not having any open fires or wood stoves around. All that went after very successful surgery.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
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advice? Patience. Getting all you can out of a pipe is something that happens when it happens. Kind of like puberty. One day you notice some nuances you never noticed before or you have to start shaving. Worrying about it won't help and won't make either happen any faster. If anything you're getting in your own way. Just focus on the things you can enjoy and notice. It will probably happen when you are not expecting it too.
Oh and try different tobaccos. Try a wide variety anything that sounds interesting, but not like a race.
Try a burly try a Va try and English. In fact try Kramers blend for Cary Grant. It won't do any magic, it's just really good and easy to enjoy.
 
Jun 25, 2021
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England
Give the tobacco an opportunity to "imprint" itself in your olfactory bank.
Even after 14 years of pipe smoking my brain is still trying to accurately process the information that my taste buds and sense of smell are giving me.
That will probably carry on for another 14 years, or longer.
I'm happy with it being that way because it adds interest and variety.
 

OzPiper

Lifer
Nov 30, 2020
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Sydney, Australia
Even after 14 years of pipe smoking my brain is still trying to accurately process the information that my taste buds and sense of smell are giving me.
That will probably carry on for another 14 years, or longer.
I'm happy with it being that way because it adds interest and variety.
If you smoke predominantly the one blend eg @condorlover1 or @Grangerous you will have no problems identifying that blend.

There are so many components to smell and taste that unless you have an eidetic memory, it is very difficult to pinpoint a particular blend with any degree of accuracy unless you spend a lot of time "tasting and testing" your palate.

Years ago when I was into wine tasting (once or twice a week) and playing wine "parlour" games (called "options"), I got fairly good at distinguishing wines. These days, I'd be satisfied if I can tell a white from a red - and that's if I'm sober. I'd rather not waste too much time analysing but enjoy drinking the wine instead :)

What I meant was identifying broad genres eg Latakia/oriental blends vs Virginia/VaPers vs Burleys, rather than specific blends
 

Grangerous

Lifer
Dec 8, 2020
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If you smoke predominantly the one blend eg @condorlover1 or @Grangerous you will have no problems identifying that blend.

There are so many components to smell and taste that unless you have an eidetic memory, it is very difficult to pinpoint a particular blend with any degree of accuracy unless you spend a lot of time "tasting and testing" your palate.

Years ago when I was into wine tasting (once or twice a week) and playing wine "parlour" games (called "options"), I got fairly good at distinguishing wines. These days, I'd be satisfied if I can tell a white from a red - and that's if I'm sober. I'd rather not waste too much time analysing but enjoy drinking the wine instead :)

What I meant was identifying broad genres eg Latakia/oriental blends vs Virginia/VaPers vs Burleys, rather than specific blends
Many years ago, an experienced scotch drinker said that all scotch tastes like scotch. I balked at that because I was relishing the peaty varietals of the north as well as the lighter scotches from the south and everything in between. — Today I realize he spoke from experience. I love all scotch, it tastes like scotch.

I drink them neat and I’m no snob. I haven’t met a scotch I haven’t enjoyed. Some are harsher examples but you get the idea.

I’m like that with most all tobacco forward blends. Tobacco tastes like tobacco. — so long as you don’t mask it with cherry gummy bears. I equate that to pouring Coca Cola into my scotch.

Granger is a mild, tasty easy smoking blend that consistently satisfies. I’m off the TAD hamster wheel. I can enjoy most any tobacco where tobacco is the star of the show. HH Acadian Perique is one example of a flavorful natural tobacco blend. Nothing but leaf and oh so tasty.

OzPiper is 100% correct. Granger is a familiar, lifelong friend.
 
Jan 28, 2018
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By chance are you letting your mouthpiece rest in the discarded ash? That could explain things. Aside from that, clean out the pipe and try dedicating a pipe to a specific blend. Mixing blends can mottle the flavor for sure. Slow down, smoking too fast can cause any tobacco to taste like ash but especially Orientals and Virginias.

If it persists, cleanse your palate. Brush teeth, gargle with mouthwash, eat and apple and then try smoking a bowl drinking just water to accompany it.

Do your food taste the same? If so, probably not some temporary palate thingie. At $100 per tin, it would have to taste extraordinary for me to smoke a pipe.
 

PipeIT

Lifer
Nov 14, 2020
4,470
26,871
Hawaii
I can smoke the bowl on just 1 or 2 lights

This might be the problem, to much fire/heat going on, as an inexperienced smoker.

I’ve personally never been able to keep a bowl lit for long, and I really don’t care. For me personally, I’ve found that tabac has always tasted the best, when I barely light it, then take a few small sips and let it go out, relight and repeat the process over.

While it may be true that we need to light tabac to burn and smoke it, to much fire and heat also destroy taste.

You’ll just have to do a lot of experimenting, but you certainly want to dry the tabac out, so that you pinch a small clump, you feel no moisture, pretty crispy.

Some tabac too, straight from the tin can be fine, or with some moisture, sometimes some slightly moist tabac can yield more richness, something you just have to experiment with.

Start out with barely lighting it, and then sip very slowly, don’t worry about relights, start out with the idea of barely lighting and slow small sipping.

Packing the chamber to light or to firm, can cause issues, experiment with packing.

Have fun! :)
 
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Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
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37,968
RTP, NC. USA
When I was much younger and about as stupid, I asked this exact same question. I was already smoking couple of packs a day, but it got me thinking "tobacco itself can't possibly taste like smoke." No clue why I thought that way. So decided to find out. Logical way to experiment this was to use "chew" since mouth and tongue will do all the testing. I recruited some test subjects, my friends, and all sat around the school baseball bleacher. We opened the pouch of some chew or the other. It smelled pretty good. So we did what baseball players do. Just like Mets players. Grabbed big pinch and shoved it between the lip and gum. Wasn't bad at all. Then we started drooling. We were drooling black spit, and it was nasty. We wanted to spit, but that would be messy. Some idiot suggested swallowing the spit. Rest of the idiots followed the suggestion. God that was awful! After that afternoon, no one ever asked what tobacco tasted like.
 

Graham

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Jun 12, 2021
11
37
Welcome from Sydney, Oz

May I ask which blends have you been trying ?

When I got back to smoking my pipes 3 years ago, Peterson's Connoisseur's Choice was the 1st blend I tried. It is an aromatic which will not bite, and is still one of my favourites.

Peterson's Irish Flake sat me down on my behind with my 1st bowl - it is much stronger in the nic department.

A friend kindly gave me samples of a few different blends to try. I found I really liked English/Balkan blends. Latakia and oriental tobaccos have a readily discernible "forward" flavour/taste and are quite easy to pick out.

Having "worked out" aromatics vs English/Balkan blends, I'm now getting to know Virginia/VaPer blends, as these are more subtle in flavour (my opinion).

Next on my list are Burleys and Cavendishes. I find it better to become familiar with one blend/genre before moving on to the next. Give the tobacco an opportunity to "imprint" itself in your olfactory bank.
 

Graham

Lurker
Jun 12, 2021
11
37
When I was much younger and about as stupid, I asked this exact same question. I was already smoking couple of packs a day, but it got me thinking "tobacco itself can't possibly taste like smoke." No clue why I thought that way. So decided to find out. Logical way to experiment this was to use "chew" since mouth and tongue will do all the testing. I recruited some test subjects, my friends, and all sat around the school baseball bleacher. We opened the pouch of some chew or the other. It smelled pretty good. So we did what baseball players do. Just like Mets players. Grabbed big pinch and shoved it between the lip and gum. Wasn't bad at all. Then we started drooling. We were drooling black spit, and it was nasty. We wanted to spit, but that would be messy. Some idiot suggested swallowing the spit. Rest of the idiots followed the suggestion. God that was awful! After that afternoon, no one ever asked what tobacco tasted like.
Thanks for the advice Oz piper, I have tried mostly aromatics and I could taste the difference and have been searching for “the one” that hits the mark I guess that could take some time then i had the ash tray taste start so cleaned out the pipes and sadly still experiencing the taste so I have just ordered an English blend form Tobacco blends in Melbourne it’s Pertersons My Blend 965 I have read many reviews on many blends on tobacco reviews and hope this will do the trick. I tried Skiff and that was ok to start with but ended up a bit tasteless but that might have been because it had dried out a bit towards the end. Anyway fingers crossed. Unlike you I do not know anyone that smokes a pipe here in Mount Helena or infact WA come to that so no one to confer with or share over a pipe.
 
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