Tobacco “Strength” -What is It?

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Ryan

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Hmmm. Apart from the nicotine and flavor strength I’m not sure what people would be referring to. They may simply be imprecise in their language.

There are mild flavored blends that are mostly Virginia that can have substantial nicotine levels. GLP Gaslight is high in Latakia, very strong in flavor but not in nicotine.

Jim’s reviews do a good job of clearly quantifying both aspects of strength.
I read what you wrote again, and something clicked for me. Nic-Hit + Flavor Strength = STRENGTH. Is that what I have been missing?
 

Ryan

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Let me post another couple of quotes from reviews posted on tobaccoreviews.com

The strength and nic-hit are a couple of notches past the center of medium to strong. The taste level just edges past that level. (JimInks review for Ken Byron Ventures English on TR)

Maybe this one spells out the best. He mentions strength and nic-hit as two different things. That is clear. It is strength AND nic-hit. If they were the same thing you wouldn't say it twice. The next sentence mentions the taste as being at a different level than the strength and nic-hit. Perhaps my comprehension skills aren't what I think they are, but this seems to be talking about three different things. Taste, nic-hit, and strength are mentioned separately.

The strength is just past the center of mild to medium, and the taste just hits the medium level. The nic-hit is a step past the mild mark. (JimInks review Georgetown Hastings on TR)

Again, seems to be three different things. I hope these, in addition to the two i already posted above, will illustrate my question better.
 
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I am still fairly new to the world of pipe tobacco, I have been at it for about six months now.

I have read many tobacco reviews and there is something that comes up that I don’t think I fully understand. In the reviews, many reviewers mention the nicotine strength of a blend, and they discuss the strength of the taste and flavor. I understand all that well enough.

There is a part I’m not sure I understand at all though: separately from the taste/flavor and the nicotine content many reviewers talk about the strength of the tobacco. It isn’t just a few reviewers, it seems that many if not most mention this. Separately from the taste/flavor and nicotine, what does this strength refer to exactly?

I don’t remember where, but one review site even mentions using that strength factor as part of the rubric for evaluating a blend. Unfortunately for me, they did not really define it. Can a tobacco have weak nicotine and taste but still be strong? Can it have a heavy nic hit and lots of flavor and still be “not strong “?
My understanding is:
"Strength" = "Nicotine"
"Fullness" = "Flavor"
If people do refer to "Falvor" as "Strength" then there is usually some context to clarify, but I will take any statements about "Strength" without context as only referring to Nicotine.
 
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Grangerous

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My understanding is:
"Strength" = "Nicotine"
"Fullness" = "Flavor"
If people do refer to "Falvor" as "Strength" then there is usually some context to clarify, but I will take any statements about "Strength" without context as only referring to Nicotine.

Fullness? Now you’ve opened yet another can of worms. I don’t care for blends that are wispy and light in body. I prefer the fullness and mouthfeel of a creamy smoke. For me a blend has to have some bass notes as well as high notes. Fullness has nothing to do with nicotine strength or flavor strength. It’s something else.
 
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Fullness? Now you’ve opened yet another can of worms. I don’t care for blends that are wispy and light in body. I prefer the fullness and mouthfeel of a creamy smoke. For me a blend has to have some bass notes as well as high notes. Fullness has nothing to do with nicotine strength or flavor strength. It’s something else.
Oh dear, in that case I have no idea how anyone describes flavor in pipe tobacco.
 
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Donb1972

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I suppose it could depend on what type of tobacco. An aromatic would have a taste/flavour that would be separate from the strength of the tobacco leaf itself. Some aromatics are so strong you can barely taste the tobacco.
 
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pauls456

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It's a question well worth asking. Based on what I'm reading, I also wonder if Strength is measure of the overall sensory experience, which incorporates degree of nicotine hit, amount of flavor, degree of harshness of taste, and other qualities such as 'bite' and 'tingle'. If so, I might rate something like G&H Kendal Kentucky as Strong, even though it smokes without bite.
 

JimInks

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I use the term “strength” as an overall description for nicotine, depth of body, and potency. I always list the nic-hit separately because a lot of people seem to care more about that particular aspect than the other part of the strength description. Of course, taste refers to the strength of the flavor of the blend itself, and can be considered as an aspect of the catch-all strength outline.