Tips on Similar Blends but Without Drytime Required?

[ahouston]

Hi all!

I haven't been pipe smoking lately, in fact it's been about a year since my last bowl. I've been smoking cigars instead because they're much lower maintenance. But the price and nostalgia of the pipe is calling to me!

But I need your help: I will list my favorite blends and you could suggest something similar (and something fairly low in nicotine please) that does not require any dry time at all! No flakes please, though I suspect almost all flakes require dry time anyway.

Skiff Mixture (Sam Gawith)
Plum Pudding (SPC)
Golden Sliced (Orlik)
EMP (Peterson)
Capstan Blue (McBaren)

Thanks in advance!!

 

[rick3wood]

sillems Black

 

[HawkeyeLinus]

I'll "bite" - what's the reason for a no dry time requirement?

 

[Ghosted Tamper]

Try GL Pease, or C&D ribbon (or broken flake?) tobaccos. I'm not big on Latakia, which it seems you are, but both offer a poop ton of Lat blends, and one that I hear often in the same circle as Skiff Mix is GL Pease Westminster. Take that with a grain (or two) of salt, as I have never smoked Westminster.

What I can say is that they are no fuss, no muss, pack, light, tamp and hop on ya funkin bus type tobaccos. I'll recommend C&D Yorktown for a straight VA and GL Pease Laurel Heights for a VA with a whisper of Latakia. These are straight-up tobaccos, sans topping; unlike both OGS and Capstan. The tobacco you do get is exception, and without losing absolutely all of the Latakia with Laurel Heights.

The upside is, you only have about 500 other blends within the C&D portfolio (which includes GLP), so less typing and more piping .

 

[didimauw]

I'll "bite" - what's the reason for a no dry time requirement?

Aint nobody got time for that!

I dry my tobacco in bulk, and then put it into huge jars for smoking.

Daughters and Ryan and Semois tobaccos need no dry time.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Packing lighter allows more oxygen into the chamber and circumvents drying.

 

[ahouston]

sillems Black

Will do! What do you find it similar to? Plum Pudding?

 

[ahouston]

I'll "bite" - what's the reason for a no dry time requirement?

I find if I dry my tobacco it loses flavor, I never know how much to dry

 

[ahouston]

Try GL Pease, or C&D ribbon (or broken flake?) tobaccos. I'm not big on Latakia, which it seems you are, but both offer a poop ton of Lat blends, and one that I hear often in the same circle as Skiff Mix is GL Pease Westminster. Take that with a grain (or two) of salt, as I have never smoked Westminster.

What I can say is that they are no fuss, no muss, pack, light, tamp and hop on ya funkin bus type tobaccos. I'll recommend C&D Yorktown for a straight VA and GL Pease Laurel Heights for a VA with a whisper of Latakia. These are straight-up tobaccos, sans topping; unlike both OGS and Capstan. The tobacco you do get is exception, and without losing absolutely all of the Latakia with Laurel Heights.

The upside is, you only have about 500 other blends within the C&D portfolio (which includes GLP), so less typing and more piping .

Thank you! Will look into them

 

[ahouston]

Packing lighter allows more oxygen into the chamber and circumvents drying.

Even with the very moist Sam Gawith and SPC blends?

 

[HawkeyeLinus]

I find if I dry my tobacco it loses flavor, I never know how much to dry

Makes sense, but if it comes dry enough to suit you hasn't it already lost flavor in some respect in the sense it's simply not as moist as it was at some point before packaging? Not arguing, just asking because I don't know much about how tobacco is processed and packaged. For sure some stuff comes heavily coated and soused, I get that. And I compared a fresh tin of Cult Blood Red Moon to one I'd opened two years ago and was more than crumbly and a big difference in flavor related to drying out, but that's an extreme example. I've got some packages of Wilke that I've had for a couple of years that have definitely dried a little bit (the bags aren't Mylar) and upon opening them, they seem just right, so that's one way to handle it. I guess I'm on the side of the fence of sensing more flavor if it's drier so always very individual!

 

[HawkeyeLinus]

Packing lighter allows more oxygen into the chamber and circumvents drying.

I'll set some out if I'm "planning" but seem to just take as is more than I used to and work on better technique (with aros, I still dry flakes more) and packing lighter has been a big help.

It probably sounds like a crutch but reading some of @OzPiper's experience with Nording chips got me to experiment with those recently and I haven't noticed any taste issue related to them and seem to get a benefit out of them moisture-wise making some apples to apples comparisons. Still evaluating!

 

[Chasing Embers]

Even with the very moist Sam Gawith

I don't find Gawith blends to be overly moist, but yes.

 

[FLDRD]

Hi all!

I haven't been pipe smoking lately, in fact it's been about a year since my last bowl. I've been smoking cigars instead because they're much lower maintenance. But the price and nostalgia of the pipe is calling to me!

But I need your help: I will list my favorite blends and you could suggest something similar (and something fairly low in nicotine please) that does not require any dry time at all! No flakes please, though I suspect almost all flakes require dry time anyway.

Skiff Mixture (Sam Gawith)
Plum Pudding (SPC)
Golden Sliced (Orlik)
EMP (Peterson)
Capstan Blue (McBaren)

Thanks in advance!!

My experience with the ones you listed don't really fall into the overly-moist-needs-drying-time category...?
They will change over a week or 2 in an opened (but lidded) tin, but even fresh they respond well for me simply with some prepping / fondling of the leaf that takes less than 60 seconds.
I guess if you want super easy go with something like dark birdseye flake or similar.

 

[Ghosted Tamper]

I find most Gawith blends (minus the plugs and ropes) seem to dry down to much more manageable after about a year jarred, when selecting a bowl sized bunch straight from the jar. About on par with most anything else anyway. Don't give up on Gawith, they offer wonderful tobaccos.

 

[bullet08]

Just smoke without drying. Providing you are at a point you can adjust your cadence, and know how to properly pack tobacco into a chamber, it really shouldn't be too much of an issue. Or you can try to see if your tongue will develop callus.

 

[Epip Oc'Cabot]

I find if I dry my tobacco it loses flavor, I never know how much to dry

I know this goes against a lot of folks thoughts, but for me, I have always found drying improves flavors. For me, it has seemed there is a greater breadth of flavors.

 

[bullet08]

I know this goes against a lot of folks thoughts, but for me, I have always found drying improves flavors. For me, it has seemed there is a greater breadth of flavors.

Yes and no. Aromatics lose flavor. When drying, the topping which gives aromatics what they are goes away. Some consider Lat as type of aromatic. Hence Lat blend that's little too dry is like crap. Well, not that bad. Virginia seems to work best when dried to right before crisp. It all depends on the blend and type of tobacco. Whole dry everything doesn't really work. But for the newbies, it helps with tongue bite.

 

[Gimlet]

Packing lighter allows more oxygen into the chamber and circumvents drying.

This is what I do. I never dry tobacco, and I smoke a lot of flakes. In fact, I usually have a hydration sachet in my jar.
A moist, loosely packed smoke will demand a little more care and use of the tamper initially to get going ( and a more frequent cleaning regime) but I think it makes for a smoother and more flavourful smoke.
I've tried drying tobacco and just found it harsh and ended up rehydrating - usually with a lettuce leaf.

 

[ahouston]

Makes sense, but if it comes dry enough to suit you hasn't it already lost flavor in some respect in the sense it's simply not as moist as it was at some point before packaging? Not arguing, just asking because I don't know much about how tobacco is processed and packaged. For sure some stuff comes heavily coated and soused, I get that. And I compared a fresh tin of Cult Blood Red Moon to one I'd opened two years ago and was more than crumbly and a big difference in flavor related to drying out, but that's an extreme example. I've got some packages of Wilke that I've had for a couple of years that have definitely dried a little bit (the bags aren't Mylar) and upon opening them, they seem just right, so that's one way to handle it. I guess I'm on the side of the fence of sensing more flavor if it's drier so always very individual!

I find that when it is packaged less moist, the manufacturers managed to retain flavor with a dryer tobacco. Whereas when I dry it myself, I find I can lose the flavor that is there when it's very moist but hard to keep lit.