I feel like I get better values shopping the down-market series new and even looking for them on sale. This isn't the only way I shop pipes, but if I want a bargain, it's more dependable than yard sales, flea markets, or antique stores. Most have nothing. Others have old pseudo Danish freehands and such, or pipes in ratty shape. Some of the Rossi Vittoria are pretty classy at Dr. Grabow prices, and Dr. Grabow Royalton are nicely done, and I recently bought a Tsuge factory pipe from PC at $39.99, not the top of the line but definitely a Tsuge. All of these are fine smokers. I like to stroll through the occasional yard sale or flea market, but not so much for pipes.