The Perfect Pipe For A Short Smoke

[shanez]

Yup. Ah, I always strive to pronounce foreign words the way they'd sound in their original language. I don't anglicise them. Not just for German, but for other languages too. 'Cept French, there I won't even try.

That's what you get when both your parents are school teachers, I guess.

I quit trying to/trying not to anglicize words after I married a woman whose native language is not English. Much to the chagrin of educators and linguists everywhere I've found it best to try to tailor what I say to the person I'm talking too.

And yes, French is so colloquial it can be tricky. Like so colloquial the guy who lives across the street speaks differently.

 

[greeneyes]

Oi, that ligature is pronounced "oi' in Latin: the German equivalent would be "eu" or "äu".

Yeah, I took Latin too, two courses, and the conversations were always monologues.

I like to imagine, romantically perhaps, that 'œ' retains some similarities to its sound in extant Mediterranean languages. More 'Iberia' than 'Germania' ... likely my imagination more than anything.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Yup. Ah, I always strive to pronounce foreign words the way they'd sound in their original language.

But do you say alligator or cajun?

 

[olkofri]

But do you say alligator or cajun?

I'd say Alligator mississippiensis!

 

[Chasing Embers]

I'd say Alligator mississippiensis!

El lagarto, and Acadian.

 

[olkofri]

El lagarto, and Acadian.

Yeah, I was gonna say 'el lagarto', but I'm not sure the English word really comes from that.

 

[shanez]

I'd say Alligator mississippiensis!

Ah, but is that in scientific or medical or classical?

 

[olkofri]

Ah, but is that in scientific or medical or classical?

As Virgil woulda said, therein lies the rub, the task.

As I was gonna reply to @greeneyes we've a funny situation with Latin, since we have two major pronunciation 'schools': Classical and Ecclesiastical.

I use Classical, the one the Romans themselves used. Thus, I cringe when I hear Latin pronounced as Italian (which would be the Ecclesiastical pronunciation, which we must use in church, much to my chagrin).

You won't catch me saying veneremus cernui as 'veh-neh-REH-moos scher-NOOY' but as 'weh-neh-REH-moos KEHR-noo-ee'. They will sing the former at church, though, as canon law says Ecclesiastical (italianised) pronunciation must be used at church. At home and elsewhere, I'll always pronounce my Latin C's as English K's and my Latin V's as English W's, just like the Romans did.

 

[shanez]

I didn't think of ecclesiastical.

I never studied Latin but sometimes I get very curious and the next thing I know I've wasted 2 hours so I can say oncorhynchus mykiss for no reason whatsoever than I enjoy amateur etymology and fly fishing.

 

[trubka2]

"Short smoke" as in "leprechaun-size"?

 

[Chasing Embers]

Yeah, I was gonna say 'el lagarto', but I'm not sure the English word really comes from that.

I've read it's as much an English corruption as nickname is.

 

[olkofri]

I've read it's as much an English corruption as nickname is.

Can I say 'lacoste'?
?

 

[Chasing Embers]

Can I say 'lacoste'?
?

That's technically a crocodile.?