The Mayflower & The Pilgrim Fathers: An Astonishing Statistic.

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deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
This place gets deep after a few bowls of Royal Yacht.
That being said, what is realism? Perhaps admitting that there is more than meets the eye, or at least possibly so, and then remaining open to seeing patterns in what we know of the world. At that point, a door is open, and the rest depends on the adventurer more than the terrain on which the adventure occurs.

 

davidy97

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jan 20, 2017
155
177
Tx
I'm half Texas German catholic and half North Carolina southern baptist. I have to admit the catholic side has a lot more fun.

 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
10,050
16,108
That being said, what is realism? Perhaps admitting that there is more than meets the eye, or at least possibly so, and then remaining open to seeing patterns in what we know of the world.
Everything that we have been able to observe in the known universe is temporal, transitory, impermanent. So the question is, if the eternal does not exist, where did the temporal come from?
Is it really possible for all that exists to be of a temporary nature without any permanent source?

 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
10,050
16,108
My garbage man, Al, says yes. It was an emphatic yes. He should have a grasp of the subject as he hauls away most all the temporary stuff in my neighborhood.
So, he considers you a permanent source of garbage?

 

weezell

Lifer
Oct 12, 2011
13,653
49,171
I'm at that point in life where I have to hope for a benevolent, very benevolent and forgiving (I'll need my fair share of forgiveness), deity to be in charge.
YES! :wink: ...

 

pappymac

Lifer
Feb 26, 2015
3,568
5,062
Slidell, LA
My father was Catholic. My mother was Pentecostal. I believe there may be a supreme deity but also view most churches as being cults were the leaders want to control your life and take money away from you. Question: How many poor people could an Evangelist help for the price of a private jet?
My ancestors have been traced on my paternal side to an indentured servant from Scotland in the Virginia Colony in the late 1670s. My great grandmother was full blooded Choctaw Indian on my father's side. On my mothers side my great grandmother was full blooded Cherokee.

 

aldecaker

Lifer
Feb 13, 2015
4,407
45
Pappy, I guess it's just part of the human condition that as long as people are seeking answers, there will always be someone there to provide answers.

 

lonestar

Lifer
Mar 22, 2011
2,854
163
Edgewood Texas
My ancestor was the Ships Cooper on the Mayflower, and one of the hired hands who stayed on at the new Colony. John Alden. One of his descendants was the poet Longfellow, who wrote a story about John and made him famous. That makes finding distant relatives fairly easy. I run into lots of random people who don't have the Alden last name, but their Father or Uncle or someone in the family has Alden as a middle or first name in honor of being related to the original John Alden.

After running into so many random people all across the country who are related to one guy on a boat, I do believe the 10% number. I'm sure for every one person that I figure out is a distant cousin, I probably shake hands with another 50 who are, and never know it.

 

simong

Lifer
Oct 13, 2015
2,747
16,591
UK
Who remembers that documentary about pitkin island? The late sir Alan whicker interviewing the descendants of fletcher Christian & the other mutineers from the bounty. Both fascinating & moving.

 

jmatt

Part of the Furniture Now
Aug 25, 2014
770
75
The first in my paternal line got here pre-Revolutionary War, and got a land-grant from William Penn himself.

 

mawnansmiff

Lifer
Oct 14, 2015
7,808
8,596
Sunny Cornwall, UK.
"Who remembers that documentary about pitkin island?"
Simon, assuming you meant the Pitcairn Islands I saw that and yes, it was fascinating but also had its darker moments.
I could watch anything by the legendary Alan Whicker...his delivery was so perfect.
Regards,
Jay.

 
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