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troyniss

Can't Leave
Jul 8, 2018
472
1,231
Michigan
Like many here, I like to browse eBay for estates just to see what is out there. I am particularly fond of the early 20th century Petersons, but darn if you can find a really pristine pipe, not just Peterson, that's well over 100 years old that is like-new that hasn't changed hands a dozen times or been reamed to black hole diameter proportions. I'm probably exaggerating but the point is, future second hand shop/estate buyers are going to have a turkey shoot when it comes to their particular pipes they want. I myself have close to 100 pipes, 80% of them not even smoked or seldom smoked. I'm not going to be buried with them like some you of selfish bahsstuds. I'm not saying that there aren't really great pipes with age on them, but the future will probably have a lot more. These days we actually take care of our pipes and don't just smoke them to oblivion. I'm generalizing of course. I know some of you don't give a hoot.... have your cake and eat it too... actually don't, it's carcinogenic but you get my drift?

Oh to be a future pipe smoker in 2121.
 
I'm not really all of that concerned about the future. When you get to be my age, you realize that you are living in your future. I'm also not really worried about whether folks will find good estate pipes. The thought about someone else holding and smoking my pipe after I'm dead never crosses my mind while smoking. It doesn't even really bother me right now, while I am thinking about it.
Funny how that works. I do worry about other things in the future, like whether my kids... my kids anything, ha ha. But smoking... the only thing about smoking and the future that worries me at all is whether or not the nursing home my kids stick me in will allow me to smoke. I don't know of anyone who has finished up to their last days in their own home. Unless of course I just wander off into the woods with my pipes...

Anyways, what were we talking about? Oh yeh... you were wanting my pipes when I am dead. puffy
 

telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
Like many here, I like to browse eBay for estates just to see what is out there. I am particularly fond of the early 20th century Petersons, but darn if you can find a really pristine pipe, not just Peterson, that's well over 100 years old that is like-new that hasn't changed hands a dozen times or been reamed to black hole diameter proportions. I'm probably exaggerating but the point is, future second hand shop/estate buyers are going to have a turkey shoot when it comes to their particular pipes they want. I myself have close to 100 pipes, 80% of them not even smoked or seldom smoked. I'm not going to be buried with them like some you of selfish bahsstuds. I'm not saying that there aren't really great pipes with age on them, but the future will probably have a lot more. These days we actually take care of our pipes and don't just smoke them to oblivion. I'm generalizing of course. I know some of you don't give a hoot.... have your cake and eat it too... actually don't, it's carcinogenic but you get my drift?

Oh to be a future pipe smoker in 2121.
I am grateful that there are people such as yourself who keep our customs alive, especially in this time of antismoking, but I will continue to bang, beat, and devalue my pipes - some of which are really nice. Why? Because they are made after all to be... smoked.
 

telescopes

Pipe Dreamer and Star Gazer
I don't know of anyone who has finished up to their last days in their own home. Unless of course I just wander off into the woods with my pipes...

Anyways, what were we talking about? Oh yeh... you were wanting my pipes when I am dead. puffy
in our family, we have a tradition of our children taking care of their parents. Our gift to them is we die in our children‘ s homes so we can continue to haunt them and “ghost” their living space.
 

stokesdale

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 17, 2020
845
2,534
Stokesdale
I agree. Coming from someone that views pipes mostly as utilitarian devices and have never owned more than probably 15 at a time (and lose or break probably 3 or 4 a year), the advent of the internet, in my opinion, has led to collections growing much larger. Back when I was growing up, my relatives maybe had 3 or 4 pipes at the most...my grandfather only had 1 in fact...having more than that was simply unheard of (at least out in the rural area(s) where I live).
 
I agree. Coming from someone that views pipes mostly as utilitarian devices and have never owned more than probably 15 at a time (and lose or break probably 3 or 4 a year), the advent of the internet, in my opinion, has led to collections growing much larger. Back when I was growing up, my relatives maybe had 3 or 4 pipes at the most...my grandfather only had 1 in fact...having more than that was simply unheard of (at least out in the rural area(s) where I live).
Yep, my Uncles only ever had maybe three pipes in a rack at most, one that was too caked up to smoke, one he smoked, and a new one waiting its turn after the other two are dead. I've also witnessed the moments when one of their pipes had caked too much to smoke, and it unceremoniously got tossed into the fireplace or tossed out a truck window. Of course, these weren't Dunhill or artisan made pipes, just smoking tools. But, probably most of the pipes sold back in the day, were smoked to completing by no longer being able to get tobacco into the bowl, and then destroyed. I'm sure they didn't give a rat's ass about younger people getting their pipes when they were dead either.
 

stokesdale

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 17, 2020
845
2,534
Stokesdale
Yep, my Uncles only ever had maybe three pipes in a rack at most, one that was too caked up to smoke, one he smoked, and a new one waiting its turn after the other two are dead. I've also witnessed the moments when one of their pipes had caked too much to smoke, and it unceremoniously got tossed into the fireplace or tossed out a truck window. Of course, these weren't Dunhill or artisan made pipes, just smoking tools. But, probably most of the pipes sold back in the day, were smoked to completing by no longer being able to get tobacco into the bowl, and then destroyed. I'm sure they didn't give a rat's ass about younger people getting their pipes when they were dead either.
Yeah, and they didn't flush their pipes with water either!!! rotf
 
Yeah, and they didn't flush their pipes with water either!!! rotf
I don't even ever remember seeing a pipecleaner. These were my grandfather's brothers. I was always with them when I was younger, running errands, helping in the gardens, fishing, hunting, they always had a pipe burning, and not a single pipecleaner crosses my memories.
 
? Same here. A pocketknife is all I ever recall.
Yeh, I do recall them carving out the cake sometimes. I wonder what made the difference between when to cut the cake out and when to throw it away? Probably being able to afford a new pipe right away or not. I do remember that destroying an old pipe seemed to bring them some satisfaction. Maybe being able to smoke a new pipe? Ha ha.
 

ChuckMijo

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 26, 2020
775
2,355
I can only add this. Their are absolutely unreal private collections out their that would make your head spin. I have been fortunate to see a few. These are mostly traded privately as well. Their still are gems to be found on eBay and other sites.
 

ashdigger

Lifer
Jul 30, 2016
11,392
70,230
61
Vegas Baby!!!
I find early 20th century pipes all the time, and I some very fine examples and some beat up knockers. I prefer the beat up pipes that had been smoked HARD. Oh the stories they could tell.

I'm a collector, but more importantly I’m a pipe smoker. What happens to my pipes and baccy after I’m worm food is of little consequence to me. Of course my children know my preferences, but I won’t be here to supervise the sale and or filled dumpster, so I’m not going to worry.

When you think about collections passing hands here’s a real example of why I do not concern myself.

Ten years ago my father and I sat down and categorized his rather extensive Casino Chip collection. We went through a current price and grading book. All told it took roughly three days.

My father passed and per his instructions we contacted the gentleman who could assist in selling his collection. The gentleman came over, photographed each page of chips and then painstakingly went through each page looking for the rare, high value chips.

Three weeks later the gentleman returned with his current estimate and plan to sell the collection. He was going to sell them at chip collection shows, eBay and his connections.

Fast forward to today, about five and a half years since my fathers passing and the slow slog of sales continues.

Here’s the punch line. Ten years ago the chips were valued at approximately $200,000. When the appraisal was given five years ago the value was approximately $25,000.

So what changed, it was an easy answer, chip collectors were dying and the inheritors didn’t want to be chip collectors, so the market is flooded with rare high value chips.

A simple example is a $1 chip from the Landmark Casino. The chip was valued at $1,500 because of the grade, color and specific design of this chip. The 2010 price guide estimate less than 100 chips existed due to limited run and known scarcity. In 2015 there were approximately 1,000 for sale. Turns out private, “quiet collectors”, were holding chips so close it skewed the market and valuations. That $1,500 chip was now worth an astonishing $75.

So, every month I receive a check from the guy selling my late fathers collection. The largest check was $650 and the smallest check sent was $5. It averages $25 a month. The $650 was an outlier and the first check. The highest grade chips sold immediately at a shocking fraction of the previous value.

While I’m grateful for every penny the collection has brought in, it is a staggering eye opener and a lesson on how transferring my pipe/baccy collection to my heirs can be a blessing and curse.
 

shanez

Lifer
Jul 10, 2018
5,444
25,950
50
Las Vegas
I like the thrill/challenge of a good pipe hunt myself. Whether it be something old/antique or something exotic/funky or something by a specific maker the score is made all the better by the search.

That being said, the advent of the internet is certainly changing things and constantly opening new vistas (and not just for pipes) that weren't even imaginable years ago.
 

select565

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 2, 2020
115
502
I find early 20th century pipes all the time, and I some very fine examples and some beat up knockers. I prefer the beat up pipes that had been smoked HARD. Oh the stories they could tell.

I'm a collector, but more importantly I’m a pipe smoker. What happens to my pipes and baccy after I’m worm food is of little consequence to me. Of course my children know my preferences, but I won’t be here to supervise the sale and or filled dumpster, so I’m not going to worry.

When you think about collections passing hands here’s a real example of why I do not concern myself.

Ten years ago my father and I sat down and categorized his rather extensive Casino Chip collection. We went through a current price and grading book. All told it took roughly three days.

My father passed and per his instructions we contacted the gentleman who could assist in selling his collection. The gentleman came over, photographed each page of chips and then painstakingly went through each page looking for the rare, high value chips.

Three weeks later the gentleman returned with his current estimate and plan to sell the collection. He was going to sell them at chip collection shows, eBay and his connections.

Fast forward to today, about five and a half years since my fathers passing and the slow slog of sales continues.

Here’s the punch line. Ten years ago the chips were valued at approximately $200,000. When the appraisal was given five years ago the value was approximately $25,000.

So what changed, it was an easy answer, chip collectors were dying and the inheritors didn’t want to be chip collectors, so the market is flooded with rare high value chips.

A simple example is a $1 chip from the Landmark Casino. The chip was valued at $1,500 because of the grade, color and specific design of this chip. The 2010 price guide estimate less than 100 chips existed due to limited run and known scarcity. In 2015 there were approximately 1,000 for sale. Turns out private, “quiet collectors”, were holding chips so close it skewed the market and valuations. That $1,500 chip was now worth an astonishing $75.

So, every month I receive a check from the guy selling my late fathers collection. The largest check was $650 and the smallest check sent was $5. It averages $25 a month. The $650 was an outlier and the first check. The highest grade chips sold immediately at a shocking fraction of the previous value.

While I’m grateful for every penny the collection has brought in, it is a staggering eye opener and a lesson on how transferring my pipe/baccy collection to my heirs can be a blessing and curse.
I had no idea casino chip collecting was a thing
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
16,601
31,113
46
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
Like many here, I like to browse eBay for estates just to see what is out there. I am particularly fond of the early 20th century Petersons, but darn if you can find a really pristine pipe, not just Peterson, that's well over 100 years old that is like-new that hasn't changed hands a dozen times or been reamed to black hole diameter proportions. I'm probably exaggerating but the point is, future second hand shop/estate buyers are going to have a turkey shoot when it comes to their particular pipes they want. I myself have close to 100 pipes, 80% of them not even smoked or seldom smoked. I'm not going to be buried with them like some you of selfish bahsstuds. I'm not saying that there aren't really great pipes with age on them, but the future will probably have a lot more. These days we actually take care of our pipes and don't just smoke them to oblivion. I'm generalizing of course. I know some of you don't give a hoot.... have your cake and eat it too... actually don't, it's carcinogenic but you get my drift?

Oh to be a future pipe smoker in 2121.
I've had similar thoughts. I knew a few pipe smokers back in the day that lavished their pipes with the care that's considered standard (people used to debate how often a pipe cleaner should be used). I really think a big difference is the internet. It's a lot harder and less sensible to have a stable of pipes when all you have are brick and mortar stores and whatever stock it makes sense for them to carry. Half the time the artisan pipe that I'd find in a B&M seemed to be there mostly just to make the Petersons seem more reasonably priced. But now I can go and look for that pipe until I find it. For example wanted a churchwarden for ages but until I could search the internet for one I never found the right one, then I found like five to choose from. :) Oddly makes it more of a collector thing or more it makes being a collector more accessible.