Tell Me about Sutliff Match Victorian

[blackpowderpiper]

Just ordered a pound of this. The price is ridiculous. From the tidbits I've been able to pick up around here, a lot of folks seem to like it and consider it a good value for the money. For those of you who like this or have tried it, what are your thoughts?

 

[kwg116]

It’s a great blend for the price. It’s very good right out of the bag, but I tend to smoke it more often when it has a few months to a year of age. In my opinion it has a fuller body and flavor than the modern Dunhill/Peterson Elizabethan.

 

[hawky454]

It’s a great blend to press into cakes. I have a bunch of pucks mellowing in my cellar. There’s a good amount of funky, stinky, delicious Perique in it.

 

[sablebrush52]

It's a match to the Murray's version of Elizabethan Mixture, so it's a little different from the STG-Dunhill/Peterson version. You can spend $90 - $120 for a tin of the Murray's or buy the Sutlifff match and get substantially the same flavors for a wee bit less.
I like this blend a lot and have a few pounds of it.

 

[Ocam]

It's quite good. If you like vapers you will like this one for sure.

 

[spicy_boiii]

Like said above, ages well. Gets pretty plummy. I don't get much of a lemon/citrus taste, more on the Red VA side of things.

Responds well to stoving, pressing, and blending (I prefer it as is). Burns great. No bite. No harshness. The casing is very light/unobtrusive, it's sugar-based, reminds me of simple syrup.

I have 10 or so pounds of it. It's one of the better VaPers available in bulk, and definitely among the best in terms of value. During previous sales it got close to $20/lb, that's a real no brainer.

Like every other seemingly lauded blend, try it and see for yourself. I'd figure this blend would be a cheap litmus test as to whether someone might like VA/Pers or not.

 

[highwindows]

I highly endorse it. It's a solid VaPer and it's ridiculously cheap. I even prefer it to Elizabethan Mixture, which has the habit of tasting a bit too green for me. I don't smoke it all the time but if I had to, I would.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Bought ten pounds of Match Elizabethan six or seven years ago. Much prefer it to any other Virginia/Perique blend.

 

[alaskanpiper]

An excellent blend, particularly for the price. One of the few bulk blends I have cellared fairly deep on.

 

[PipesRock]

Excellent blend for sure. On the plumy sweeter side rather than peppery as far as a VaPer goes. I've got a few pounds tucked away.

 

[FurCoat]

It's good stuff. I highly recommend it if you like VaPers.

 

[WildTurkeySurprise]

Great stuff! Quite different from the Peterson Elizabethan Mixture available today…far superior imho.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Great stuff! Quite different from the Peterson Elizabethan Mixture available today…far superior imho.

Definitely. It's based on an iteration of the blend recipe prior to STG.

 

[irishearl]

Bought a half-pound around 1 year ago and loved it. Then a few months later ordered another half-pound and its taste was quite different from the first half-pound to the extent I did not care for it. Have bought none since, sticking with Bayou Morning for my VaPer.

 

[pantsBoots]

Bought a half-pound around 1 year ago and loved it. Then a few months later ordered another half-pound and its taste was quite different from the first half-pound to the extent I did not care for it. Have bought none since, sticking with Bayou Morning for my VaPer.

Interesting. I bought 4 oz a couple of years ago and smoked a few bowls and it did not gel with reviews I had read. What I received was a VaPer for sure, but with very low quality Virginia, even by Sutliff standards. Of course, I tend to like what Peterson does with Virginias and like their Elizabethan Mixture quite a lot. It's nowhere near as good as the Dunhill Dark Flake, and I hope to see that one released stateside under the Peterson banner eventually.

 

[blackpowderpiper]

Thanks for all the replies. Vapers are probably the blend that I smoke the most of. I vaguely remember smoking a few tins of the STG version of Elizabethan several years ago. I don't remember a lot of the details other than I did seem to enjoy it well enough. Having seen some of the feedback here and given the low price, I decided to pick up some of the match version and see how it tastes. If I like it and given the reasonable price, I may use this blend to bolster the cellar reserves. Thanks again. I appreciate the feedback.

 

[JimInks]

Thanks for all the replies. Vapers are probably the blend that I smoke the most of. I vaguely remember smoking a few tins of the STG version of Elizabethan several years ago. I don't remember a lot of the details other than I did seem to enjoy it well enough. Having seen some of the feedback here and given the low price, I decided to pick up some of the match version and see how it tastes. If I like it and given the reasonable price, I may use this blend to bolster the cellar reserves. Thanks again. I appreciate the feedback.

I cellared this one rather heavily, and have promoted it for ten years. If you want another really good value VaPer, I also suggest D&R SJ Rimboche.

 

[blackpowderpiper]

I cellared this one rather heavily, and have promoted it for ten years. If you want another really good value VaPer, I also suggest D&R SJ Rimboche.

Thank you sir for the recommendation.

 

[chopper]

I cellared this one rather heavily, and have promoted it for ten years. If you want another really good value VaPer, I also suggest D&R SJ Rimboche.

Odd then that I could find no reviews for Sutliff Match Victorian at tobaccoreviews. [Even tried an advanced search - nothing]
Have you posted a review here on the forum Jim?

 

[username]

Odd then that I could find no reviews for Sutliff Match Victorian at tobaccoreviews. [Even tried an advanced search - nothing]
Have you posted a review here on the forum Jim?

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