you got that right! yes, i am finding good baccy here and there at the mom-and-pops. they are happy to have the sale. on the other hand, some of the chain stores act like they are doing you a favor by "letting you purchase" from them. ran into this a few days ago. guy had 2 tins of 1820 on the shelf. i asked if he had more, and he replied, "...not today." (translated, "...not for you!"). more than a little peeved, i asked again and looked him square in the eyes, and he just smiled. pompous ass! again, we've got the tobacco hobbyist trying to be the businessman. i haven't seen it work yet. that's the problem with some B&M's... they are shooting themselves in both feet! dumb-@sses! ok, i feel better now...