Thanks! I’ve not smoked New Market, and didn’t even know about Engine 382. C&D has so many blends.
Straight Deer Tongue Pipe Tobacco
- Thread starter DIYpiper
- Start date
PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor
Site Sponsors
PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor
PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor
PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor
PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor
- Status
and many that sound just like others they have. Which is just like most pipe tobaccos. It's amazing how two things that have the same tin description can taste so different.
Deertongue contains coumarins, chemicals that may thin the blood and cause liver damage. Coumarin is a colorless crystalline solid with a sweet odor resembling the scent of vanilla and a bitter taste
In manufacturing, deertongue extracts are used to flavor tobacco, as a fragrance in cosmetics and soaps, and as a fixative in some products.
Warfarin – a coumarin – with brand name, Coumadin, is a prescription drug used as an anticoagulant to inhibit formation of blood clots, and so is a therapy for deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism
In manufacturing, deertongue extracts are used to flavor tobacco, as a fragrance in cosmetics and soaps, and as a fixative in some products.
Warfarin – a coumarin – with brand name, Coumadin, is a prescription drug used as an anticoagulant to inhibit formation of blood clots, and so is a therapy for deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism
I would have thought the FDA would have weeded that out at about the sametime they banned the natural ingredients in real Root Beer.
I think it was. I recall blends switching over to synthetic substitutes for deertongue a few years ago.
You can purchase deer tongue at most herbal stores. I buy it at the site mentioned earlier, and have 6 ounces of it in a mylar bag. Mix it sparingly with cube cut burley and you have a good tobacco.
Is that cheaper than just buying Crooner?
I don't know the pharmaceutical research on deer tongue, but from what pappymac says, I would say, stay away from it especially if you are taking anything for blood pressure, or heart or cardiovascular issues, or liver problems. It sounds like an issue in itself, but also in relation to anything you might be taking for these conditions. If you are younger, and don't have any known issues, I'd still consider your own family history, to not get anything started.
Unless there are underlying health issues or conflicting medications or something, I don’t see a real concern, personally. Of course, everyone should make up their own mind about it. Here’s one article about it.
Recently purchased a tin of Gentleman Caller out of curiosity. Haven’t tried it yet, but did open the tin and jar it. I’ve read lots of people describe it as a vanilla aroma, but to me it has more of menthol/camphor slightly medicinal aroma. Maybe it will develop a more vanilla aroma when it’s smoked.
Smells like a combination of clover, mint, and honey to me. I suppose there is a vanilla-like component in there, but I agree, it’s not the same as actual vanilla. More herbal.
I think of it as "pipey" smelling. It also has different aromas depending on what it is blended with. You've probably stepped on it your whole life it if you live anywhere East of the Mississippi. It grows just about everywhere. It is also known as a red lettuce, and it looks different depending on what stage of growth it's in.
I can tell when I hit it with the lawnmower, because you'll get that herbally smell in the air. But, you can find it damn near everywhere.
I can tell when I hit it with the lawnmower, because you'll get that herbally smell in the air. But, you can find it damn near everywhere.
Last edited:
I bought some Deer Tongue from Amazon, and left a review about my smoking experience. It was promptly deleted. I still have the stuff and I added some to an old blend made by Ed's Pipe Shop in Southern California. Initially the blend had Deer Tongue, but they removed it, which I promptly re added. I think the blend was called "Special." I still have some left, I should give it a tasting.
If I remember correctly, Mark Ryan at Daughters & Ryan, told me they used a synthetic courmarin in their version of London Dock.
Deer tongue that we smoke is Carphephorus odoratissimus. I tried growing it, but it proved very difficult as it needs a warmer environment than I could provide. 1% is all that you need in a blend. It's probably the most effective flavoring I've ever used. So, to answer the original question, smoking it straight would probably be over-powering. However, I've put it in straight flue cured tobacco and its super nice.
Does it though? This is total news to me. I thought it was just topped with Tonquin (Tonka) Bean essence? I can see how Deer Tongue and Tonquin taste similar though.
- Status