STG closes Mac Baren and Sutliff

[woodsroad]

I'm fortunate enough to have had some Ogden's Bruno and I'm devastated I didn't get more of it.

Yes, but are you decimated? Depricated? Delineated? Debilitated? Decorated? Detonated?

 

[woodsroad]

Actually just checked, my tin of Nightcap says manufactured in Denmark by STG, so it’s still possible Mac B makes them, I could swear I heard that, contracted my STG…. So the Peterson line could still have issues.

No.
Wrong.
Please don’t start rumors.

 

[eyjaygaming]

Can you confirm that Sutliff employees have been notified of their termination and the closing of the factory?

Part one of your question: no idea
Part two: yes!

 

[elvishrunes]

No.
Wrong.
Please don’t start rumors.

So what are you saying is wrong there brother…? That a few facts line up? It isn’t that complicated…. Maybe to some.

 

[eyjaygaming]

So what are you saying is wrong there brother…? That a few facts line up? It isn’t that complicated…. Maybe to some.

Mac Baren has never produced Dunhill/Peterson. STG has produced this, even before it was called Peterson.

 

[elvishrunes]

Mac Baren has never produced Dunhill/Peterson. STG has produced this, even before it was called Peterson.

OK, I’ve heard this a few times online, I mean it is the same part of world, easy mistake…. So then STG will just be pairing down on some of their Danish properties then? Consolidating warehouses… Hopefully it works out. Truthfully except for Amphora a bit, I don’t smoke a ton of Mac B.

 

[sablebrush52]

Yes, but are you decimated? Depricated? Delineated? Debilitated? Decorated? Detonated?

When did you turn British?

 

[sablebrush52]

And it’s Mylar!

But not metallized Mylar, so the contents will dry out if not transferred.

 

[romaso]

And it’s Mylar!

How can you tell it's mylar?

 

[sablebrush52]

Did you jar or Mylar? I have a couple of pounds of St Bruno pouches from Estervals and would love them to last... I'm fortunate enough to have had some Ogden's Bruno and I'm devastated I didn't get more of it.

I just ordered them. The metal tins from 2016 were all corroded around the seal. The ones I got from Esterval’s were plastic and were solid. Still, the contents of both had lost the topping, to a lesser degree with the ones from Esterval’s.

 

[romaso]

The Last of How It Was

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Doing 5 lb curls?

 

[Chasing Embers]

But not metallized Mylar, so the contents will dry out if not transferred.

I've had some since 2020 in those bags that are still fine.

 

[Dr. Van Loafer]

Can anyone speak to if Boswell uses Sutliff in their blends?

 

[woodsroad]

How can you tell it's mylar?

Good question!
Polyester bags have a stiffer feel than polyethylene. And once you hav some known Mylar bags, you’ll recognize then again. This tobacco is packaged in the exact same bag that I bought from Sorbent Systems years ago. They’re very strong, heat resistant and a very good oxygen barrier.

 

[KruegerFlap]

This is a shame considering the enormous amount of blends across so much of the pipe tobacco spectrum that will be affected. Just concerning Sutliff alone, all the tobacco they provide to places like WCC, and others. Then there are the one off limited blends they have produced over the years such as Cringle Flake, Birds Of A Feather, and Pipe Force that showed the creative side of the industry. One thing STG certainly lacks is imagination and the willingness to show a creative side like this. They are a huge conglomerate who only cares about profit, not catering to the market with innovation or customization. This is the real tragedy in my mind and makes this move potentially a hundreds times bigger than the loss of McClelland. The writing was on the wall when Per Jensen was unceremoniously let go from Mac Baren. You don't just up and fire the one person who made your company a phenomenon in the industry with his talents and creativity like that under normal circumstances.

 

[sablebrush52]

I've had some since 2020 in those bags that are still fine.

You're lucky. I've had bags that dried out after a couple of years. California is a dry climate, little to no ambient humidity, so maybe that has something to do with it. Personally, I'd rather not take an unnecessary risk.

 

[Chasing Embers]

You're lucky. I've had bags that dried out after a couple of years. California is a dry climate, little to no ambient humidity, so maybe that has something to do with it. Personally, I'd rather not take an unnecessary risk.

The bags for their five pound lots are very dense. They almost have a rubber texture to them.

 

[sablebrush52]

The bags for their five pound lots are very dense. They almost have a rubber texture to them.

Five pound bags are a different kind of animal.

 

[f4phantomdriver]

Hey Embers, have you smoked Mixture 79 after years in the tub? I’m curious if it still tastes good after 5-10 years.

I am also wondering if Sutliff blends will be produced at the factory they are moving MacBaren to.

I can tell you, I have a tub of Mixture-79 that is 7 years old. It it half full, I had a bowl tonight and it was fantastic! I actually bought a pound of the bulk today just to stuff in the tub for a rainy day.

 

[f4phantomdriver]

Not when jarred.

Not in the tub either lol. I have some that is 7 years old and had a bowl tonight. It was awesome. Tasted better than fresh. Tasted good, the aroma was straight up classic pipey, and the nicotine was on point, and I smoke strong GH flakes so my tolerance is pretty high.