Maybe Kopp will buy some of the brands? Then we'll get Amphora, cased with liquorice, Three Nuns cased with liquorice, St Bruno cased with.... etc.
STG closes Mac Baren and Sutliff
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One thing is sure, they will drop some blends out of production, there no doubt to this
Terrible news tbh. Especially regarding Sutliff and everything they do.
Imperial Brands may take Amphora & Bruno back to their portofolio and if so, the quality of those blends sure will deteriorate with this switch
I doubt that STG will sell any brands to their competitors.
This does not bode well for independent blenders that use Sutliff bulk as components.
Not hard to establish a consensus here...
...uh-huh-huh-huh...I said "hard."
Remember all the times some members called those cellaring "hoarders" and posted that meme of Weird Al in a tinfoil hat?
Same may be true for the producers.
And what about all the blends, such as Fusilier's Ration/Bengal Slices, that are made by Sutliff for STG?
My guess is that some will be killed, and others will go to Assens, DK and re-emerge as something... different.
Folks here said, not too long ago, that we were living in a Golden Age of Pipe Tobacco, and people scoffed.
We need to start a pool about how long C&D will hold out.
My guess is that some will be killed, and others will go to Assens, DK and re-emerge as something... different.
Folks here said, not too long ago, that we were living in a Golden Age of Pipe Tobacco, and people scoffed.
We need to start a pool about how long C&D will hold out.
Tobaccopipes.com has a 20% off Sutliff bulk sale going on right now. Discount code SAVENOW.
Just to be safe I ordered 10 pound of Mocha Strips.
Just to be safe I ordered 10 pound of Mocha Strips.
In the meantime, cannabis has gone from illegal/prohibited to a third of a trillion dollar market. (projected to be half a trillion by 2030)
Because society's rule makers are only interested in people's health, of course, not money.
Because society's rule makers are only interested in people's health, of course, not money.
Not sure what your point is here, maybe you can clarify? The pipe tobacco market is shrinking because of greatly reduced retail market demand. The pot business is booming because people want to get stoned. Neither one is healthy, but the demise of Mac Baren et al doesn't have that much to do with the government. I haven't heard of anyone quitting pipe smoking because of taxes or regulations. Not that I'm a fan of either.
Thanks for the tip. Just ordered five pounds of Sweet Virginia. This sucks.
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It’s weird that cannabis is being brought up in this conversation tbh. I understand that some folks don’t like the plant but this ain’t the forum to piss and moan about its legalization.
Here's the problem with that: C&D uses an overall relatively small amount of tobacco, but many varieties. Those varieties often need a unique terior, such as Orientals doing best in the Mediterranean. And the tobaccos that they use are often not the entire plant, but just a portion of the stem positions. So, it's pretty much impossible for them to economically grow the variety and quality of tobacco that they need on a small scale. They would need multiple farms, in multiple countries, all growing small amounts of tobacco. This doesn't even take into consideration the vagaries of farming such as bad years due to drought, insects etc., while figuratively having all their eggs in one basket. And they'd have to get into the processing business as well, none of which is affordable on a small scale. If it was feasible, I'm pretty sure it would have been done by STG already.I thought at one point when I got back into pipes C&D grew tobacco.
I wonder if things are harder for them to source in the future they might start growing, South Carolina is suppose to be a good environment for tobacco… hmm
Just standing back and looking at the big picture.
People were driven away from tobacco by health fear arguments (at every level from personal decision making to federal law making), but the organizations and campaigns pushing those arguments were doing it for the money, not health reasons... or else there would be the same pushback on cannabis.
Except there isn't.
Exactly the opposite, in fact.
a.k.a. Follow the money.
The reason for mentioning it in this thread is A) the STG situation is a byproduct of that ^^^; and B) as a reminder STG will do whatever makes them the most short-term money, long-term customer satisfaction be damned.
Do they use mostly STG bases? I don't know much about C&D.I thought at one point when I got back into pipes C&D grew tobacco.
I wonder if things are harder for them to source in the future they might start growing, South Carolina is suppose to be a good environment for tobacco… hmm
It'll be interesting to see how it affects pipe shows as well. I've only been to the Vegas show twice, but Sutliff and Tobaccopipes were sponsors at both.
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