Starbucks Smoking Ban

[brian64]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtBzqVfQyOs
Starbucks used 'toilet water' to brew coffee in Hong Kong location, reports say
http://now.msn.com/starbucks-used-toilet-water-to-brew-coffee-in-hong-kong-location-reports-say

 

[plateauguy]

What can I say? Starbucks started in Seattle. Never got the big deal about it.
I use a Keurig with the little load it yourself brew cups and my own ground coffee. I'm up too early to have to think about making coffee, so I pre-load my little cups and have them ready. Since I only drink 1-2 cups a day, it's a waste to make a pot.

 

[jonahtke]

Sounds like our local smoking ordinance, no smoking inside, or within 15 feet of a door or window to a public building or business.

 

[metalheadycigarguy]

This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode in which Kramer started a smokers club in his apartment.

That was a great episode.

 

[hemsworth]

I struggle a bit with the suggestion of an air roaster because many are 50% of the cost of a Behmor and they just don't last that long. A quality burr bean grinder is a must have as well.

If I remember correctly, I picked up my popcorn maker for $20 on Ebay. I do agree with the burr grinder, though. That is a must have. I had purchased a Bunn grinder and it had a short lifespan. I upgraded to a Virtuoso by Baratza. It is a great machine.

 

[brian64]

This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode in which Kramer started a smokers club in his apartment.
That was a great episode.

+1
It also reminds me of this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12jwC65KD70

 

[allan]

I am going to be "that guy". I am not necessarily against this. Any owner of a business should be allowed to conduct his business how he wants. After reading a lot of posts on this site I find it interesting that people are against the government "telling them" what they should be doing with their life when it comes to tobacco but are opposed to someone running there business how they want. I actually do not have an issue with smoking bands in restaurants either. I find it kind of inconsiderate to others. What I do on my personnel property is my business
East
I really don't think that anyone would really argue with you that a person should be allowed to run their business as they see fit

I believe whats involved here is the new corporate and government mentality of anti smoking that is so clearly evident all around the country if not the western world
When an individual makes a decision to ban smoking in his business that's one thing. But for an entire corporation to demand no smoking 25feet from the entrance of their storefront I believe is infringing on my rights as a tax paying individual using a perfectly legal extremely highly taxed product . Too me, that is going (and has gone) too far
IMHO

Allan

 

[hemsworth]

We're not even allowed to smoke in public parks around here now. They used to allow smoking on the patio at the bars but they have now taken that away from us as well.

 

[tennsmoker]

I don't do Starbucks, and surely never will now. If I can't smoke my pipe outside in the free world, then I sure as hell ain't going inside to be dictated to.
Besides, I grind my own beans in an old-fashioned grinder, put 'er in my little coffe pot and let 'er rip.
And, if I just can't wait for a cup of java, I head out for my local coffee shop.
Starbucks, which ripped off its name from Herman Melville's novel Moby Dick, can do without me and I can do without all its crappe.

 

[instymp]

+1 Allan, but I bet that call was made because of local/fed regulations re smoking, not Starbuck's, just a guess so they are compliant to what is going around the USA. I never had the time, or took it, to sit in a coffee shop so I don't care. Only time I buy a cup from SB is in an airport.

 

[jwp159]

I just saw the new 25' rule posted at my local Starbucks as I fired up a bowl on their patio Today. I had not caught this thread so it was the first I had heard of it. They said after June 1st I couldn't smoke there any more. I said well after June 1st you can't sell me anything because I will never be back.
The company has a right to do what they want on their property. I have the right to never open my wallet to them.

 

[captainbob]

It sounds like we are pretty much all in agreement. To hell with Starbucks!

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[zonomo]

Near Seattle is a very cool artsy-fartsy town called Kirkland, which is on the water. When its nice there, its really spectacular. We've been using a bench by the Starbucks there for about 2 years, mainly cigars but I've added pipes to the mix. :mrgreen: Last night we moved to the actual SBUX round outside tables, one of the Baristas came out with a plate of BlueBerry scones for us! I think they were going to toss them but she thanked us for being there! I know there is no guarantee that SBUX will continue to let us use their tables but we will for now.

 

[locopony]

25 feet away from their property is not on their property for them to dictate as to what goes on. From there I dont care if they choose to only serve one legged, transvestite, Rastafarians. Thats his buisness.

Starbucks coffee on the other hand is just over rated crap anyway in opinion.

 

[voorhees]

I use a Keurig and the reusable cups. I refuse to pay Starbucks prices.

 

[toadie]

I was about to completely lose my mind until easterntraveler's post.
I sincerely hope anyone who takes offense to Starbuck's decision takes time to sit down and actually think about why they're doing it. Smoking is harmful, and being in the presence of a smoker while he is smoking is harmful. If the company chooses to decree something with the intention of making their stores more hospitable to the vast non-smoking majority of their clientele, then I applaud their efforts to improve themselves and their product (atmosphere included).
An attack against smokers... knowing that could even be thought of by this community I only very recently gained the confidence to join makes me seriously reconsider this hobby.

 

[kashmir]

I beg to differ Toadie. That's PC speak right there: "Smoking is harmful". Smoking what? Pot, meat, tobacco, incense? Pipe smoking is not harmful. Cigarette smoking is. The two are as different as night and day. People who pipe moderately often live longer than their counterparts that don't. It's imperative not to confuse the two. Especially on a pipe forum. As for Starbucks, I never enjoyed their product or their left leaning politics.

 

[plateauguy]

I am always amazed at the amount of people plunking down their hard earned cash for coffee that smells worse than an old stogie. Then, throw in their self rightous, meddling politics and I'm a definate "no show".

 

[chagovatoloco]

There are two types of people in my mind.
One watches tv and doesn't like what he sees so he changes the channel.
Another watches tv and doesn't like what he sees so he makes a ruckus and tries to have it banned.
Starbucks is catering to their main clientele. The super progressive who is trying to make a utopian society (as they see it). They are not the first many have tried this (hitler, stalin)... and failed. I am generally against anything that takes away freedom. I do agree that as a business they should be able to do what they want. Though they should own the land for up to 25 feet away to be able to endorse this. However with the way things are today they will only upset a few and gain the loyalty of many.

 

[lordofthepiperings]

Wonder if this will be next weeks rant on the radio show.
Smoking bans outside are just nuts! I hate coffee and all I ever got from Starbucks was a brownie. Definitely won't even be buying one of those anymore. I say one day we just ban together and hold sitting smoke ins where hundreds and thousands of us smoke our pipes and cigars in no smoking areas.