Starbucks Smoking Ban
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it's not the twenty five feet from the door law that Starbucks is doing here. it's twenty five feet from the actual property itself.
I cut up my Starbucks Card a month ago when the CEO said something similar to the affect that if customers don't support Gay Marriage they can go buy their coffee somewhere else. Common sence tells me that a businessman should not promote a political point of view to the exclusion of customer's who may not agree with him. All of our money is green regardless of sexual orientation. I am sure many straight and gay people have patronized Starbuck's. But, he has publicly announced that if we don't agree with him it is his way or the highway. Therefore, I am taking offense that no one is welcome in his stores if they don't agree with his opinion. I am protesting his lack of respect for his customer's point of view that might differ from his. So, I no longer am a patron of Starbuck's. Now, add the prohibition of smoker's outside? All I can say is he better have a lot of Gay Non-Smoker's that like Starbuck's coffee! He probably does. That's fine. I wrote Starbuck's a letter and received a response that was a feeble attempt at softening what the CEO said to his shareholders at the meeting. Sorry, I don't buy it. This whole affair was well covered by the media and there was no denial of what was quoted. Good Bye Starbucks's. I now fully support Copper Rock Coffee houses!
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Well there are plenty of local coffee shops to frequent if I am so inclined. I have never cared for Starbucks and have only been a handful of times when others with me decided to go. Reckon I won't be going back. Those K-cups are way overpriced. I sometimes use the reusuable cup when I don't want a whole pot of coffee or just for some hot water for tea.
Starbucks coffee is roasted too much, it always tastes burnt to my palate. I prefer German coffee, esp. Tchibo Gold or Jacobs Krönung - best when mixed with condensed milk. Second best is Dunkin Donuts coffee, with cream and sugar!
As to the smoking restriction, more and more local governments are moving restrict smoking outdoors - and it shows little sign of slowing down. But, at least exceptions are being made for tobacco shops and cigar lounges.
As to the smoking restriction, more and more local governments are moving restrict smoking outdoors - and it shows little sign of slowing down. But, at least exceptions are being made for tobacco shops and cigar lounges.
That's a stupid move on their part, but with all the anti-smoking nazi's out there I'm not surprised by it.
As for me the only time I drink Starbucks is when my co-workers and I go there for a morning coffee and one of them buys; otherwise I buy my coffee from a buddy of mine and his wife as they own a coffee shop in town. I also frequent one of the local minit-marts in the evenings on the nights I work a late shift. There I can get my 16oz mug filled with anyone of about 10 different blends of coffee for 50 cents. Heck, that 50 cent coffee is twice as good as the Starbucks coffee I've had.
As for me the only time I drink Starbucks is when my co-workers and I go there for a morning coffee and one of them buys; otherwise I buy my coffee from a buddy of mine and his wife as they own a coffee shop in town. I also frequent one of the local minit-marts in the evenings on the nights I work a late shift. There I can get my 16oz mug filled with anyone of about 10 different blends of coffee for 50 cents. Heck, that 50 cent coffee is twice as good as the Starbucks coffee I've had.
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Can you imagine the quality of the roast you could have if you took the money some of these "Lemmings" spend each month on their MochaFrapaCrappaChino's and put it into a grinder/french press... Or even a Mr. Coffee would work wonders with some fresh grounds for a pittance of of the monthly "fix" some people seem to need from Starbucks.
Back in the 90s I thought it was a just a fad, should have bought some stock I guess. I was living in Vacouver British Columbia at the time and downtown the Public Library was on one corner...the other THREE were Starbucks.. DUMB.
But they typically do provide a nice place to hang out while waiting for a movie or meet a friend to chat. That's too bad Anthony, I'll continue my boycott if you would like me to call my non-patronization that and add me to your cause.
I'm shocked you could smoke at a Starbucks in the first place....
I smoke at outdoors Panera patios. They have a no smoking policy, but if the place is nearly empty, no one has ever hassled me. If someone sits near me, I just let the pipe go out and move on.
I smoke at outdoors Panera patios. They have a no smoking policy, but if the place is nearly empty, no one has ever hassled me. If someone sits near me, I just let the pipe go out and move on.
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode in which Kramer started a smokers club in his apartment.
I am going to be "that guy". I am not necessarily against this. Any owner of a business should be allowed to conduct his business how he wants. After reading a lot of posts on this site I find it interesting that people are against the government "telling them" what they should be doing with their life when it comes to tobacco but are opposed to someone running there business how they want. I actually do not have an issue with smoking bands in restaurants either. I find it kind of inconsiderate to others. What I do on my personnel property is my business and what I do around others property is there buisness. I would never show up to a friend’s house or any other persons house who don’t smoke and go on their deck and start puffing on my pipes just to go back in there house and smell it up. Same goes for smoking in front of someone’s business I just do not do it.
Well, I'm not surprised. It doesn't affect me in the least because its been twenty yrs. since I went to a restaurant or a coffee shop. Why pay somebody when I can do a better job of it at home, for far less money, and hey, where I can smoke if I want to? Never saw the sense of eating or drinking outside the home. Especially on a fixed income. My family is debt free, has enough money saved in the bank, and uses the home as a home, in all senses of the word. Outside of work, the less I have to interact with the world, and PAY for that "privelidge", the happier I am. Plus one Roth on the K cups.
If you live in Seattle (ironically, the home of the unloved Starbucks) there is an alternative. Go to a Vietnamese or Lao or Khmer restaurant with some tables outside, (this is a good opportunity to see if your large American backside can fit in those tiny Asian chairs) order a cafe sua da or cafe sua nong (iced or hot Vietnamese coffee with sweetened condensed milk) and enjoy your pipe.
It's probably technically illegal to smoke there, since it violates Washington's 25 foot rule, by believe me, the proprietors won't care, and if the cops are too busy to bother the many dope dealers who frequent the area, why would they bother with a pipe smoker?
Disclaimer: This poet is not meant to suggest any violation of any laws, local, state, federal, or fascist, and readers who follow the advice contained herein do so at their own risk; namely that of enjoying a great cup of coffee with a good smoke.
It's probably technically illegal to smoke there, since it violates Washington's 25 foot rule, by believe me, the proprietors won't care, and if the cops are too busy to bother the many dope dealers who frequent the area, why would they bother with a pipe smoker?
Disclaimer: This poet is not meant to suggest any violation of any laws, local, state, federal, or fascist, and readers who follow the advice contained herein do so at their own risk; namely that of enjoying a great cup of coffee with a good smoke.
This doesn't affect me, I do most of my coffee drinking at home. I'm not even aware of the smoking policies whare I live. Recently I was in Frannie, Wyoming, population around 100, and the only business in town was a smoke shop, and made a small purchase to show my support.
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It sucks that Starbucks would do that but I am honestly not surprised. I am surprised they haven't done that already.
Hemsworth I absolutely have been looking into roasting my own beans. I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm still debating on a hot air popper or maybe buying a real roaster. I think I've read pretty much everything I can find on sweetmarias.com
As far as K cups or any other single serving coffee device you pay through the nose for the convenience. As much as 50 dollars or more per pound.
costly single serving
Papa - Tips? I didn't know people tipped Barista's. I had no clue this is new to me. lol
Hemsworth I absolutely have been looking into roasting my own beans. I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm still debating on a hot air popper or maybe buying a real roaster. I think I've read pretty much everything I can find on sweetmarias.com
As far as K cups or any other single serving coffee device you pay through the nose for the convenience. As much as 50 dollars or more per pound.
costly single serving
Papa - Tips? I didn't know people tipped Barista's. I had no clue this is new to me. lol
Sweet Maria's is the place to read all about it for sure. I order all of my stuff from them. I went with the hot air popcorn machine for about two years before it died on me. Then I went with the iRoast2 as I felt it was time to step up my game. Does it roast better than the popcorn machine? Yes...but not much better. It is certainly lasting longer but I would recommend to anyone thinking of trying to roast to go with the cheap popcorn maker before investing too much money.
Nothing tastes like home roasted coffee freshness. Nothing.
Nothing tastes like home roasted coffee freshness. Nothing.
A professional food writer with expertise in wine pairing and coffee as well, who actually worked
at Starbuck's briefly on assignment complains that the beans are over-roasted. Their espresso
is satisfactory but other coffee beverages not so much. So if Starbuck's management thinks that
they are the coffee gods, maybe not. They work hard at keeping the coffee fresh, and at training
those who brew and serve the coffee, and they do provide health benefits better than most employers,
give them that. I'm not a "regular," so I can't cut them off. I guess if I wanted a cup of coffee and a
smoke, and that was the availability, I'd buy the coffee to go, and go elsewhere where I can legitimately
or surreptitiously smoke my pipe. But Starbucky isn't getting rich off me. In the coffee department,
I am greatly partial to stove-top percolator brewed coffee, much above drip-brewed and other methods.
at Starbuck's briefly on assignment complains that the beans are over-roasted. Their espresso
is satisfactory but other coffee beverages not so much. So if Starbuck's management thinks that
they are the coffee gods, maybe not. They work hard at keeping the coffee fresh, and at training
those who brew and serve the coffee, and they do provide health benefits better than most employers,
give them that. I'm not a "regular," so I can't cut them off. I guess if I wanted a cup of coffee and a
smoke, and that was the availability, I'd buy the coffee to go, and go elsewhere where I can legitimately
or surreptitiously smoke my pipe. But Starbucky isn't getting rich off me. In the coffee department,
I am greatly partial to stove-top percolator brewed coffee, much above drip-brewed and other methods.
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