damn it. that just means i need to run my own business. i hate book keeping.
So is US Pipe Smoking on the Rise... Or Decline?
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damn it. that just means i need to run my own business. i hate book keeping.
Just another freedom being taken away little-by-little until you suddenly find it gone and miss it. I have almost zero B&M pipe tobacco shops here in SoCal. Buy almost all of my pipe tobacco on-line. Shame. I have really taken an interest in LJ Peretti as I am liking very many of their products. I am on a 6-month experiment to decide what I like the most in their tobaccos and then plan on ordering bulk amounts and cellaring them for the future. I fear within my projected life-span (20-25 more years) the pipe tobacco availability will become so regulated that it will all but disappear. Excessive government regulation and taxation is the killer of free societies. My 2 cents.
"freedom" ???
It's like water in Southern California, if you have the money you can have the water. A lot of things require money to enjoy. Society is the "killer", to use your word. in this case. If you want to cast blame ... blame the correct cause, your neighbors and friends who elect people to eliminate tobacco use,
I recall during the WW2 one of our highest rank Army commander, Mannerheim I guess said,'You can always cut soldier rations but never tobacco'that will lead to very bad outcome,,
Funny the timing of this thread... yesterday I smoked with a couple of millennials. One was smoking a pipe, the other a cigar. I don't want to type cast any generation, but in the course of conversation we got to talking about their views about pipe smoking. Both said that the effort to learn to smoke a pipe, as opposed to a cigar, was one of the off putting reasons to pick up a pipe and their friends felt the same way. In the age of convenience and relative prosperity of many maybe compared to history, if you can pick up a good cigar and just smoke it, I can see their point.
Now it wasn't too off putting because one of them was trying to smoke a pipe, but it did occur to me that my own journey to pick up a pipe was not easy and had I had not a fair bit of commitment, I would have given up. One the things that kept me going was this community giving me advice, making me feel comfortable and even sending me some samples. I would say that if we do want to continue the hobby, that continuing to be brilliant as you have done with me with newcomers has got to help. I am going to try to do my bit on here to make those newer to the hobby than I am feel supported for sure.
Also, whilst I don't want to be an activist, I decided that I am going to get myself a handful of cobs, some small boxes of matches and some small plastic bags to put some samples in, to share with friends who indicate at least an interest in trying it out. It's a great after dinner or bbq activity, then send it home with them... if they carry on or return to smoke with you again, then the effect of this online community can happen in real live time.
Anyhow, the timing of this thread got me thinking and whether this venerable hobby is viable for my life time, I don't know... but I am going to enjoy it myself with as many friends as possible in the meantime!
Happy New Year everyone!
Now it wasn't too off putting because one of them was trying to smoke a pipe, but it did occur to me that my own journey to pick up a pipe was not easy and had I had not a fair bit of commitment, I would have given up. One the things that kept me going was this community giving me advice, making me feel comfortable and even sending me some samples. I would say that if we do want to continue the hobby, that continuing to be brilliant as you have done with me with newcomers has got to help. I am going to try to do my bit on here to make those newer to the hobby than I am feel supported for sure.
Also, whilst I don't want to be an activist, I decided that I am going to get myself a handful of cobs, some small boxes of matches and some small plastic bags to put some samples in, to share with friends who indicate at least an interest in trying it out. It's a great after dinner or bbq activity, then send it home with them... if they carry on or return to smoke with you again, then the effect of this online community can happen in real live time.
Anyhow, the timing of this thread got me thinking and whether this venerable hobby is viable for my life time, I don't know... but I am going to enjoy it myself with as many friends as possible in the meantime!
Happy New Year everyone!
There are a lot more people getting into making pipes now that are more appealing to the younger generation. I think it's going to get more attention in the future because of social media and attract more people.
If diy tobacco blending ever catches on I think pipe smoking will be better than it ever has been.
I use to vape and there is a guy named
Wayne Walker that started a YouTube channel showing and explaining different flavor profiles and how to make diy ejuice. He has a website call diyordievaping.com where he blogs about how to make diy ejuice recipes. He also explains how each flavor and the amount of flavors works with each other in a lot of detail. He also had/has a podcast where they would talk about different diy recipes they came up with. They would also do competitions letting listeners send in their on recipes. That lead to another website called alltheflavors.com where everyone would post their own recipes for people to search, try, review, and rate.
If we could get a experience tobacco guy to do something like that I think pipe smoking would get a lot more attention from us younger folks.
If diy tobacco blending ever catches on I think pipe smoking will be better than it ever has been.
I use to vape and there is a guy named
Wayne Walker that started a YouTube channel showing and explaining different flavor profiles and how to make diy ejuice. He has a website call diyordievaping.com where he blogs about how to make diy ejuice recipes. He also explains how each flavor and the amount of flavors works with each other in a lot of detail. He also had/has a podcast where they would talk about different diy recipes they came up with. They would also do competitions letting listeners send in their on recipes. That lead to another website called alltheflavors.com where everyone would post their own recipes for people to search, try, review, and rate.
If we could get a experience tobacco guy to do something like that I think pipe smoking would get a lot more attention from us younger folks.
docrameous mentions the difficulty of learning to smoke a pipe. I grew up with a pipe smoker so learned by osmosis. However, I think it is true that learning "technique," or what might be called the art, requires some real attention. Compared to cigarettes and cigars, the relights seem like failures and frustrations at first, since the other forms are just there until they're gone, no skill or thought required. No tamping, no packing, no nothing. Like a candy bar, eat it until it's gone. With pipes, there's a lot to learn. Filters, stingers, shapes, finishes, cuts, packing, drying, ten thousand blends of two hundred genres, etc. etc. People have to enjoy learning, at least until they learn basics, then it is optional. There has to be some intellectual energy expended, whether mechanical and technical, or ritual and aesthetics, or some of each.
They probably spend more then people that just by it to smoke. And heck they'll sometimes buy something in large quantities without trying it. I consider them to be investors, certainly how they function.
Lately there's been alot of cigar shops popping up in my area but of course they only sell cigars.
My local shop, who specializes in CBD, Kratom, vapes, hookahs, cigars etc. and only sells a handful of pipe tobacco brands made a comment that shes been seeing more young people buying pipe tobacco. Of course its the holiday season so take it for what its worth.
Theit selection isnt great but I try to support them by buying the brands I like which in their case is Escudo, Golden Sliced, Capstan and Three Nuns.
My local shop, who specializes in CBD, Kratom, vapes, hookahs, cigars etc. and only sells a handful of pipe tobacco brands made a comment that shes been seeing more young people buying pipe tobacco. Of course its the holiday season so take it for what its worth.
Theit selection isnt great but I try to support them by buying the brands I like which in their case is Escudo, Golden Sliced, Capstan and Three Nuns.
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hope they are not getting pipe tobacco to cut the weed x)
This is one of the things I love about pipe smoking, it really is a personality test. Pipe smokers have to be persistent and patient at least on some level (I understand that won't always carry over to personal relations).
More related to tasks. Many pipe smokers are into the arts or thinking tasks. Things others would find tedious. Art, writing, music, puzzles. Enjoyment of fretting over minutia.
Quit describing me, man!
I'm an artist, a writer, music lover (can't sing worth a flip though), and a lover of mystery stories.
Today I woke up something excited. At night remember to have had pipes in the first years of the 80s, more precisely 1982-83. So I started looking all around the house and I found them !!
I smoked in these pipes for some time, but I left it, my first child was born.
I smoked in these pipes for some time, but I left it, my first child was born.
Quit describing me, man!
I was describing myself too!
Believe it or not, but there are frequent press releases available online touting the results of pipe tobacco market analyses, like this one.
I really don't worry much about the rest of the world or country. I see pipesmokers out and about, my pipe club grows and wanes up and down, and I hear folks say that they are the only smokers in their areas. I'm not sure what to make of it, but personally, I don't let any of it bother or excite me. If every other person because a pipe smoker, it wouldn't really excite me. I didn't go in to this to be like anyone else. I'd probably quit pipes and take up the hooka just to be different, ha ha.
As for whether pipes and tobaccos carry on into the future... I am in my future, ha ha. What happens after I am in "The Home" or dead doesn't worry me one way or another. There are more important things that concern me about. When I think of the future, I just wonder whether "The Home" I go into will allow me to continue smoking pipes.
As for whether pipes and tobaccos carry on into the future... I am in my future, ha ha. What happens after I am in "The Home" or dead doesn't worry me one way or another. There are more important things that concern me about. When I think of the future, I just wonder whether "The Home" I go into will allow me to continue smoking pipes.
My measly 2c says that the increase in forum members is due to consolidation. With the demise of so many small B&M pipe and cigar shops, we are looking for camaraderie and sharing of knowledge with other enthusiasts. I see where the decorum in online forums is MUCH more friendly and helpful among members than I've seen in past years. I also believe that this is due to the fact that the special interests are forcing us to look harder at friendly places to not only have a few bowls, cigars and brews, but also places for us to discuss our passion. Just my 2c - ymmv!
Now...Back to your local station!
Now...Back to your local station!
Personally, I think the problem is all of the "Do Gooders" that want to see a complete end to smoking regardless if it is a pipe, cigar, or cigarettes. Businesses are after it, Gov officials are after it, and non smokers are pressing for it all over the place. They put us all outside and now they complain about that. So now they want to regulate the hell out of what brings some of us pleasure. Pox on them. I will grow my own if I have to.
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