So Bored I Stoved Some Best Brown 2

[davek]

I used to stove a lot. I read that you should wait at least a week after stoving for the tobacco to "settle down". I dunno, it does change, I think for the better.

I stopped stoving because it kind of made all the tobacco taste similar to me. It tasted good, so not a bad thing necessarily. I just wanted a little more variety. I need to play with it again. I smoke purchased whole leaf and homegrown... so no toppings except a little honey... so YMMV.

 

[jzbdano]

Did you ever try this?

Not yet. I keep thinking about it just too busy to settle down for a bowl lately. I'll post it here when I do.

 

[craig61a]

I have stoved tobaccos in the past, and it seems to caramelize the sugars. Was it an improvement...? Well, it did make a difference in the taste.

It’s not going to turn goat piss into gasoline...

I’m satisfied to just let what I have sit and age naturally.

But I guess everybody’s got to try it at least once.

 

[maulragoth]

Wait, and you may receive. ?
I smoked each section of the pipeful side by side to notice the difference. I’d say it fully changed it into something I enjoyed even more.
I’m definitely going to do more of it this way and maybe some other tobaccos.

comparison of G&H Best Brown 2: both smoked from Peterson 264 Kildare with p-lip.

UNSTOVED:
On the charring light I get a slightly grassy, acidic, nutty, and floral flavor with a slight rough edge. Lighting I sense wood, nuts, citrus, and light florality with breadiness creeping in. Mid pipe I taste a full, dark bread with a little spice and a tiny bit of floral on the retrohale. Towards the end it gets slightly piquant and strong with a bit more sweetness and no floral note. A tad bit of roughness creeps back in.

STOVED:
On the char I get a slightly sweet and full round taste. No noticeable florals and very smooth. Lighting I taste a full, smoky and sweet tobacco with woody notes and a molasses in the background. Rye bread throughout. Mid pipe I’m struck by the smooth, sweet bread flavor with very mild spice and smokiness. No flowers here. Towards the end I get a tangy piquant sweetness with almost no spice. A smoky, nutty wood in the background again. Doesn’t get strong or harsh on finish.

much impressed with the change, I am.

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[BROBS]

I have stoved tobaccos in the past, and it seems to caramelize the sugars. Was it an improvement...? Well, it did make a difference in the taste.

It’s not going to turn goat piss into gasoline...

I’m satisfied to just let what I have sit and age naturally.

But I guess everybody’s got to try it at least once.

I'd say it would totally depend on the tobacco.
I would try this with anything that someone finds too bitter, harsh, or just not that smooth.
It really removes the rough edges.

 

[craig61a]

It really removes the rough edges.

So does letting it sit for a few years...

 

[BROBS]

So does letting it sit for a few years...

This best brown 2 was already 2 year aged and still plenty of roughness. It’s not the same as aging.

 

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[BROBS]

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[craig61a]

This best brown 2 was already 2 year aged and still plenty of roughness. It’s not the same as aging.

OK, Dude, have it your way.

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[davek]

OK, Dude, have it your way.

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Apples and oranges, IME.

 

[hauntedmyst]

I've done it with Escudo, and it made it suck slightly less.

lol.

 

[mso489]

I prep cuts like flake, coin, plug, and rope, but I think I draw the line at putting it in the oven. Sounds fun but maybe not so rewarding ... in over my head.

 

[BROBS]

I prep cuts like flake, coin, plug, and rope, but I think I draw the line at putting it in the oven. Sounds fun but maybe not so rewarding ... in over my head.

Get out that cookie sheet and aluminum foil!!!!

 

[craig61a]

I prep cuts like flake, coin, plug, and rope, but I think I draw the line at putting it in the oven. Sounds fun but maybe not so rewarding ... in over my head.

Well, I’m not a Bio-Chemical engineer, and I don’t play one on TV.

Stoving Tobacco IMO caramelizes the sugars, drives off any off-tasting chemicals, and destroys any enzymes in the tobacco. In essence, it locks into place the flavor of the tobacco at the particular time it’s heat treated.

There’s been a lot more discussion from many more knowledgeable people than myself on other boards over the years on this.

Manufacturers have processes in place for stoving their tobacco. Which are usually trade secrets, and I would imagine quite a bit of time and data gathering was involved. The stoved tobacco is usually added to other tobaccos to achieve a certain flavor profile, and add a predictable element to the blend.

That said, I have found that while stoving tobacco at home does produce a certain change, it’s not like it’s a night and day transformation, and the process isn’t necessarily a be all - end all.

I’m not possessed to run my entire cellar through the oven. I’ll let it age naturally.

But of course, if that’s somebody else’s bag, then have at it.

Just seems like every few years, this discussion comes up, and it’s like it was manna from heaven. Like somebody who just discovered jerking off...

 

[davek]

Stoving Tobacco IMO caramelizes the sugars, drives off any off-tasting chemicals, and destroys any enzymes in the tobacco. In essence, it locks into place the flavor of the tobacco at the particular time it’s heat treated.
Just seems like every few years, this discussion comes up, and it’s like it was manna from heaven. Like somebody who just discovered jerking off...

That's the worst thing. It essentially ends aging. Wish jerking off did that.
Here's some thoughts.

Stoving tobacco?

I have nothing to add to the title. Ha. I have some Virginia based blends not getting used much, some times I put a pinch of something in them to fill in the gaps and thought maybe I should try this! I did a little searching and didn't find much on it. I have access to a stove or slow cooker. I...

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