The belge looks very like a couple of early Charatans of a similar shaping that I've seen.A dainty cased Belge bought a few years ago from Ken Barnes who opined it was a very early Charatan from its shape and size
Pure speculation, of course, because of its complete lack of stamps
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And a gourd calabash stamped “Austria”.
Andrea Bauer is an educated guess because of the distinctive briar ferrule.
Otherwise an (unknown) Austrian gourd manufacturer whom Bauer used as its source
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