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Jun 9, 2015
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I've got to go back and look carefully at all the two-digit pipes I might have dismissed without thinking. The early 20s pipes had two digits?
Two digit pipes with clovers stamped on the shanks are late 20s and very early 30's. They are few and far between these days. Most are push bits but some are synchrostem.
 
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A question. I'm sorry as I know the answer is here and not very far either. But I just bought a thorn on ebay. Drinkless in quotes and KBB in the clover is, what? Late '20s? Early '30s? Thanks for your indulgence. I'll search around. I'm sure I saw the very answer but was it here or somewhere else I don't remember.
 
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A question. I'm sorry as I know the answer is here and not very far either. But I just bought a thorn on ebay. Drinkless in quotes and KBB in the clover is, what? Late '20s? Early '30s? Thanks for your indulgence. I'll search around. I'm sure I saw the very answer but was it here or somewhere else I don't remember.
Early 30’s no later than probably 36.
 
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Does anyone know the dating and quality of such a pipe:
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Does anyone know the dating and quality of such a pipe:
Premo01.jpg

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I wanted to add that I’m confused about the company a bit. This is on the Wikipedia sites. Reiss-Premier. It’s impossibly confusing for me. Is this Premier alone, predating Reiss-Premier? So, early ‘20s possibly, having nothing to do with the Kaufmanns? I wonder if it’s relevant here. I’ve a question, again, which might belong somewhere else: where in heck did they get their briar and how did they take care of it? We’re these quality pipes? I see it’s not impossible to find these once in a while, floating around.
 

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Premo dates from 1923-24, it does not predate the R.B.C./Premier merger. Reiss Premier continued to make Premier pipes after 1920, and in fact continued making them well into the 30's after the 1926 KB&B merger.
Excellent. Thanks. That's interesting. There were so many lines of pipes coming out of all these connected webs of companies. The little pictures on pipedia of display cases have models of KBBs and Premiers that you just never see anywhere (Or, at least, I've not seen them referred to on Kaywoodie sites and they don't seem to be bopping around ebay). But as for the Premos, I wonder if one would want that aluminum thingy that Premier patented. I see some of those pipes for sale once in a while. But I'm not sure what's going on with this aluminum tube. I'm kind of assuming it was not such a hot idea otherwise we would have seen it in other pipes later on. Kaywoodie is what survived so there is something in that particular product. I wonder why so many businesses and people were involved and how it came to be such a quality product in the 30s with so many chefs stirring the pot.
 
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But I'm not sure what's going on with this aluminum tube. I'm kind of assuming it was not such a hot idea otherwise we would have seen it in other pipes later on.

There have been plenty of pipes that sported tubes well into the 1950s and 1960s—I have Savinelli, Longchamp, and a variety of French pipes from Saint-Claude from the late '50s with tubes.
 
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There have been plenty of pipes that sported tubes well into the 1950s and 1960s—I have Savinelli, Longchamp, and a variety of French pipes from Saint-Claude from the late '50s with tubes.
As @TheIronMonkey said tubes in various forms were very common. Dunhill, KB&B, WDC, Savinelli, and many others all had innertube pipes in one form or another. Some had integral tenons, some had threaded tubes, some had traditional tenons. But they were all similar in form and identical in function. I'm generally loath to alter the plumbing in antique pipes, even if I don't care for it someone else does. I'll move it along to a collector that wants intact pipes and buy myself something I like. Dunhill still sells replacement inner tubes for thier pipes to this day. They appear to be finished in a manner that I would expect from Dunhill today, which is poor. But they are still sold non the less.

 

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There have been plenty of pipes that sported tubes well into the 1950s and 1960s—I have Savinelli, Longchamp, and a variety of French pipes from Saint-Claude from the late '50s with tubes.
As @TheIronMonkey said tubes in various forms were very common. Dunhill, KB&B, WDC, Savinelli, and many others all had innertube pipes in one form or another. Some had integral tenons, some had threaded tubes, some had traditional tenons. But they were all similar in form and identical in function. I'm generally loath to alter the plumbing in antique pipes, even if I don't care for it someone else does. I'll move it along to a collector that wants intact pipes and buy myself something I like. Dunhill still sells replacement inner tubes for thier pipes to this day. They appear to be finished in a manner that I would expect from Dunhill today, which is poor. But they are still sold non the less.

I have a Dunhill with the inner tube so I can imagine. Actually, I see what it is now, a tenon, maybe aluminum, with a tube. Thanks so much for the info.