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warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
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Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
Well, you can't see the quality of the meer in a photograph. Unless the seller is a very good photographer you'll also not see whether or not any carving is well done, detailed. You also cannot tell if the meer is real or "lab" created. African meers are pre-stained and do not color as Turkish meerschaum does.

I guess my only suggestion would be, if you are dead set on buying a meer sight unseen is, check the bona fides of the vendor with respect to returns and guarantees. When you buy cheap, you get what you pay for. When you go for the more expensive ones you may or may not get what you pay for.
 

rajangan

Part of the Furniture Now
Feb 14, 2018
974
2,809
Edmonton, AB
Before I went to Turkey, I read that there are different grades of meerschaum, many of which are made for tourists and not intended to smoke. I believe that's true because when I visited 4 different pipe carvers in Eskisehir, and told them I actually intended on smoking them and that I wanted good quality meers, they directed me to the best pipes. There were no signatures on the ones I did buy for myself and my friends, but they were carved by the master. A signature is somewhat of a guarantee, though, when you're not buying it directly from them.

My impression was that the better pipes were generally larger, had larger bores, and bigger tenons. The stem material was also thicker. Mine are acrylic.

There were some pre-coloured pipes, but it was done with a blow torch, not by adding some sort of colorant.

If I were to order a pipe directly from Turkey, I would order from Eskisehir, not Istanbul because that's where meerschaum is mined and you would more likely be getting it directly from the artisan. One pipe I bought for a friend broke in my luggage and I ordered directly from the store I had bought it from and there were no issues. I sent him euros in an envelope, telling him exactly which pipe I remembered seeing when I was there. Unfortunately, I no longer have his contact info. If I were to try to google pipe shops in Eskisehir, I would use the word luletasi, because that's the turkish word for meerschaum.

 
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PipeIT

Lifer
Nov 14, 2020
5,200
30,697
Hawaii
It’s been my understanding at Altinok that the Master Carvers listed there are some of the best in the industry.


From what I see on Altinok, they are all from Eskisehir.
 
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coyja

Can't Leave
Feb 10, 2018
409
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Spinning ball of dirt
Bumping this thread because I'm also considering my first Meer and I'm clueless.

A few questions, and thanks in advance:
-Any "brands" (mostly three letter acronyms like AKB, MKM, IMP) that are reputable? (I'm primarily looking for just a nose warmer)
-I like to smoke w a balsa filter. Seems impossible to find a meer thats filtered, though I'm aware that they do exist. Who makes these on a regular basis?
-Any clear signs that the meer isn't from a block?
-Since I'm going with a smaller pipe, how hot should I expect it to smoke and how thick should I aim for as a result? (Again, looking for nose warmers mostly, and I clench, so not wanting anything heavy or ornate)
 

Pallidan

Starting to Get Obsessed
Oct 14, 2020
153
416
Nassau County Long Island
It’s been my understanding at Altinok that the Master Carvers listed there are some of the best in the industry.


From what I see on Altinok, they are all from Eskisehir.
I have one from Altinok. it's very nice
 

Brew&Briar

(Urban Briar)
Jan 3, 2020
179
639
Los Angeles, CA
I would say send a quick email. Let them know you are serious and its not for decoration. When I order a pipe on ebay, and its not a big brand, I try to ask a few questions first.
 
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Jan 28, 2018
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I dug out two CAO Meers recently I smoked some 15 years ago. I don't care much for the looks and the stem work sucks but they are very light and smoke fantastic. I was told Becker (?) Carved the CAO pipes but I have no way of knowing at this point. Considering the purchase of a high quality Meer, probably will when I see one I love.
 

Merton

Lifer
Jul 8, 2020
1,042
2,823
Boston, Massachusetts
I would/will always defer to those who are true Meerschaum experts as to what makes a Meerschaum pipe enjoyable. I have owned a number over the 30 plus years I have been a pipe smoker. I now own but three, two of which are sentimental and never get smoked and a smooth stubby billiard which matches, in some ways, my love of pipes like the Castello 10. The remainder I have traded over the years. It is frequently said that meers require no break in unlike briar. I have not found this to be true . Rather, my experience has been that meerschaum requires a period of seasoning ,if you will ,in order to burn off wax or residual dampness in the bowl. It can be a swampy and unpleasant smoking experience and, for me, sometimes turned me off to a particular pipe altogether.
I would always suggest buying from a reputable dealer whether from Turkey or an American Distributor. However, you can rely on SP's line of Meers, especially new ones, as they carry only true block Meerschaum. IMP and AKB are both in their lineup and can be trusted. IMP are a bit more expensive on the whole and many AKB (especially smooth pipes which I think are under appreciated) are a real bargain.
 

Brew&Briar

(Urban Briar)
Jan 3, 2020
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Los Angeles, CA
I had one with a screw in tenon - I did not keep it very long. It felt a bit fragile. Now my only meerschaum is a Bay Pipe, who I was able to work directly with to design. He uses a briar insert for a more snug and durable fit. I don't get much use out of it - as it is the biggest chamber I own. I wish the briar part was a bit shorter aesthetically, but its a great smoker regardless.

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brut666

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 7, 2020
692
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Kent, "The Garden Of England"
I had one with a screw in tenon - I did not keep it very long. It felt a bit fragile. Now my only meerschaum is a Bay Pipe, who I was able to work directly with to design. He uses a briar insert for a more snug and durable fit. I don't get much use out of it - as it is the biggest chamber I own. I wish the briar part was a bit shorter aesthetically, but its a great smoker regardless.

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I like that, I agree with you on the briar sleeve, however, still a cracking looking pipe
 
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Brew&Briar

(Urban Briar)
Jan 3, 2020
179
639
Los Angeles, CA
I like that, I agree with you on the briar sleeve, however, still a cracking looking pipe
Thank you - I really like the rustication (if you would call it that). I did not want it to be overly decorative, and this maker was the first I had seen do this treatment. I tend to see it more and more now from other makers.
 
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mtwaller

Lifer
Nov 21, 2018
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I, too, have yet to buy a meerschaum. I’ve been looking at them quite a bit lately, though. A brand by the name of Altinay has a large selection of seemingly high quality meers, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen them mentioned on here. You might also check those out.