Two part quick set epoxy will work on both Delrin/nylon or Teflon. Epoxy is my recommendation.
Savinelli - Annoying Experience
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Glue joint failed. You want to keep the pipe, glue the tenon back in. You don't want to keep the pipe, do nothing and return to SPC.
It doesn’t take lots of heat to soften the glue. Think of the little amount of heat it takes to bend a stem…..it just needs enough to soften the glue and couple it with a snug fit to pull off.
If you simply "need a pipe" to enjoy on your trip, you may be surprised at how much pleasure you get from a cheap cob as you contemplate what to do on / or the repair to, your expensive pipe.
Yes, it’s all about degree (literally ?) but I feel that the amount of heat needed to soften glue (let alone soften a stem) at that point in the pipe would need to be relatively significant. Even an abused pipe should not generate enough heat at that point in the pipe, especially with an elongated shank as in this case.
Relax. I am sure this pipe is an authentic Savinelli. I'm also sure you've had an issue with your car, stove, furniture etc at some point in your life. A pipe is no different, they aren't some sort of perfectly manufactured item. Fix it or return it and buy another.
Ok, I called SmokingPipes.com. They were pretty accommodating and said to just send the pipe back in so they could have the manufacturer inspect it. It doesn't even sound like they would attempt to fix it themselves.
For those asking, I discovered the problem when I was removing the stem to clean it and smoke it again the day after my last smoke. So it had been sitting for 24 hours. And prior to that, I was pretty careful to not let it get too hot, since I was breaking in a new pipe.
Given my upcoming trip, and difficulties, SmokingPipes.com helped me out on expedited shipping to my destination. I ended up purchasing a Nording Pipe:
I also bought a Missouri Meerschaum:
Not totally ideal that I had to buy new pipes, but I suppose variety is the spice of life. I actually hope they fix the Savinelli, since I was enjoying it until it broke. And I think I kind of liked the balsa wood filters. It seems like most on this forum forego the filters, so I thought the Nording might be a neat complementary pipe to the Sav if I ever get it back.
For those asking, I discovered the problem when I was removing the stem to clean it and smoke it again the day after my last smoke. So it had been sitting for 24 hours. And prior to that, I was pretty careful to not let it get too hot, since I was breaking in a new pipe.
Given my upcoming trip, and difficulties, SmokingPipes.com helped me out on expedited shipping to my destination. I ended up purchasing a Nording Pipe:
I also bought a Missouri Meerschaum:
Not totally ideal that I had to buy new pipes, but I suppose variety is the spice of life. I actually hope they fix the Savinelli, since I was enjoying it until it broke. And I think I kind of liked the balsa wood filters. It seems like most on this forum forego the filters, so I thought the Nording might be a neat complementary pipe to the Sav if I ever get it back.
Ha.. Perhaps that burn was a little too dry, but I'm not seriously suggesting a counterfeit. And yes, those types of issues are the bane of my existence, which is why I try to avoid them whenever possible. Seems like everything breaks far too easily these days, and it's hard to find good quality.
I'm glad we got you squared away for the upcoming trip, but I wanted to chime-in and say that it looks like the Autograph should be an easy repair, which I'm fairly certain we can handle without sending it back to the manufacturer. Typically we do need to inspect a pipe before we know exactly what our options are for correcting the situation, but this seems pretty straightforward.
We'll reach out to you directly discuss further, but if you love the pipe I'd like to repair it and get it back to you (plus a little something extra for your trouble).
As an interim pipe, at almost no cost, try a Missouri Meerschaum hardwood, which is I think maple. Five dollars and change, and a fine smoking pipe at that.
I'd send that pipe back and get an exchange. I've owned Savinelli's for decades, and they are reliable and dependable, so I think a replacement would be the way to go.
I'd send that pipe back and get an exchange. I've owned Savinelli's for decades, and they are reliable and dependable, so I think a replacement would be the way to go.
It’s surprisingly not a lot. Looking at just ArtResin brand, they say 120 degrees is enough to cause irreparable damage. You can hit that by leaving it in the sun or your car. Consider people smoke hot enough to bubble the finishes on their pipe, it’s not that wild a scenario.
Looks like amazing customer service from Smoking Pipes! After dealing with some other online retailers lately, both tobacco and non-tobacco related, it makes me really appreciate the level of service they have always provided.
That’s a beautiful pipe, especially for your first purchase. I’m sure the guys at SP will take care of you.
All true but most likely the heat would have been very noticeable to be that hot on the stem side of the tenon. The other part of that is that mostly when we hear about finish bubbling, it’s also something many consider a defect, not user error. I’m not saying it isn’t user error, just that we usually only have anecdotal evidence from the user which usually , “Oh, should this be happening? It was only used under normal smoking conditions” and not, Carp! I think I just ruined my pipe by smoking too hot”. Same here.
For what it's worth, as I was breaking in the pipe, I held the bowl in my hand and if at any point it started to feel more than mildly warm or develop a little bit of a hot spot, I would back off and let it cool. But even at it's hottest, I could have put the bowl up against my cheek and left it there for any amount of time. At no point did the shank ever get hot or even very warm. The last time I smoked it, it seemed noticeably more consistent with temperature regulation--I assume I was finally starting to get some carbon build-up.
I realize a lot of these descriptors are subjective, and it's not like I held a laser thermometer to the bowl, but I'm very confident that I did not apply any undue stressors on the pipe. Especially considering that "pipe dudes" don't strike me as the most delicate lot, and a product marketed to such a group should be a bit more robust than a Fabergé egg...
I realize a lot of these descriptors are subjective, and it's not like I held a laser thermometer to the bowl, but I'm very confident that I did not apply any undue stressors on the pipe. Especially considering that "pipe dudes" don't strike me as the most delicate lot, and a product marketed to such a group should be a bit more robust than a Fabergé egg...
