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Oct 7, 2016
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This is a real hoot. I posted above an account of an acquaintance who has worked part time at a B&M for at least 20 years in which he said the shop had it's best quarter ever in over 10 years in pipe tobacco sales. The same people urging everyone to keep their traps shut about tobacco they like seem to me to be the same voices I hear saying all the time to support your B&M.
The shop I mentioned was gradually becoming a cigar only establishment. Over the last two or three years, the owner has slowly increased the % of his inventory dollars devoted to pipes and tobacco. If lurkers here raid the online sellers and the local B&M's of your favorites before you have accumulated the 20 pounds you think your wisdom and insider status entities you to, I am not going to cry for you. It would suit me just fine if even tinned Sutliff blends were on allocation. Maybe then some dollars would be devoted by the majors to what they have perceived up til now as a declining market. And maybe decisions like Dunhill getting out of pipe tobacco would go the other way. For all its flaws, this and other forms of internet media are all we have that present pipe smoking in a favorable light. If you are only able to corner 17 pounds of your entitlement of 20 lbs because some churchwarden smoking millennial beat you to the punch, get the f**k over it.

 
Ha ha, I just posted that as something to keep in mind. I am not telling anyone what to do, because "I" am scared. I have just seen, time and time again, "Oh let me sing the virtues of Astelsy 109," and then boom it was out everywhere for months. It's more of a warning for you guys. I am setting pretty my friend, and I don't seem to be as angry. As I said, it was more of just some advice for you guys.
up til now as a declining market. And maybe decisions like Dunhill getting out of pipe tobacco would go the other way.

Dunhill announced straight from a press release that their decision was based on getting out of pipes tobacco, a licencing decision. That was the word from the beginning. Plus, they decided to change the name of their pipes away from the Dunhill brand. Like it or not, that company doesn't want to be associated with pipes. I know, right, ironic. I think that they are being stupid, but I am not going to start just making shit up about sales, because as said from many places, right now has been the golden years of pipe tobaccos. Everywhere that sells has been doing great, and Dunhill blends were in the top brackets. What gives you the idea that there has been a declining market? I'm curious.
I think you took my advice as some sort of personal insult. You don't have to take my advice. Do what you like. Fair?

 

josephcross

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 30, 2015
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Now, it is quite hard for me to properly stock up on tobacco since I am still a student and it is quite frustrating to see that the older generation who have been able to generate more money are buying up all the tobaccos like crazy

No I won’t call you a millennial....

 

smokeyweb

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 29, 2013
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Careful not to offend the millennials... unless you want their mothers to tap into the forum with accusations of cyber-bullying!

 

tom12

Starting to Get Obsessed
Apr 26, 2011
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There isn't any problems with getting SG stuff over this side of the pond, so I'm guessing there is a supply problem somewhere.

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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Harris, I'd love to hear your thoughts about that 2004 FVF as compared to say some 2012 FVF. I realize there will be a difference given the age factor, but to my palate, the older just seemed better tasting somehow. Again, just my opinion.
I do have a good amount of 2012 Full Virginia and when I begin to dig into it I will try and remember to give you my impressions. If it has aged like my 2012 St James, I expect it to be pretty tasty.

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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When I see people here posting how they buy 10 tins a month of one particular blend or buy 20-30 tins of a tobacco they like, I can only wish I was able to do something like that
Some of us also buy like this weekly, and have earned the right to do so. No entitlement got us here, hard work did. When I was a teenager, I wished I had a home of my own and it was paid for. Thirty years later after time and labor, I do. Don't begrudge the older ones of us for that, we've lived through our twenties, built a life, and can afford to spoil ourselves a bit now.

 

bazungu

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 28, 2018
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No idea where all of this hostility is coming from, I am not a person who gets offended easily at all and I did not want to make a butthurt impression, therefor my apologies as perhaps my message came out a bit wrong and more frustrating sounding as was intended. All what I wanted to say is that I hear people complaining that millennials are the problem while it are mostly people similar to them who go crazy with this cellaring and tobacco doom prepping, which mostly is an American thing and does not affect us Europeans. But you guys don't realise how lucky you are with being able to buy tobacco so easily for such low prices(or perhaps you do, and that is why you cellar). And I am not saying you do not deserve it, I believe everyone gets what they work for and I will not point fingers to a guy if he wants to buy the whole stock of a particular tobacco, it is his fullest right. All of the tobaccos I smoke are all easily available here in Europe and luckily I have no reason to panic. Just wanted to make a point to look at yourself first before blaming other groups for a problem you might be a part of yourself.
Back on topic: My local B&B has a whole shelf full of really old FVF, it already has 3-4 different health warning signs stacked on top of each other on it. Each sticker being an update of the new regulation that coem by every so many years (increase in size of warning sticker).
P.S. Smokeyweb: Keep an eye on your mailbox, my mommy will not let this slide.

 

smokeyweb

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Dec 29, 2013
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"Keep an eye on your mailbox, my mommy will not let this slide"
Haha. That's awesome! Must say... I am jealous about that aged FVF!!!

 

rx2man

Part of the Furniture Now
May 25, 2012
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@ bazunga, people are cellering as tobacco usually tastes better with some time on it AND it's only going to get more expensive.
And Cosmic is right about being quiet about something you REALLY like until you have your stash. I called Sutliff to find out if Mcclelland made their Benjamin Hartwell tobacco. They said yes, the leaf in the VA flake blend was McClelland sourced. It took me a couple days to get the money together to get 20 tins of it. Once I found out my box was on its way I posted a reply to one of the McClelland threads. By the next day Windy City Cigars was cleaned out. This happened with Iwan Reis's Gourmet English.
@ OldToby, I am smoking some FVF from 06, 12 and not sure what other years.....it all tastes good once it has say for a yr or more. Cant say if the 06 is better than the 12. Both are good. I will have to do a camparison......But you really only need to let if rest for a year or 2 and you will be good. You can also get stuff from Pipestud that has a couple yrs on it for not much more than the normal price.

 
Ha ha, fair enough. I used the word millennials, but I didn’t mean to deliver it with a nevative connotation. My appologies also. I have four of them in my house, and I know them to be hard working and driven. I was just referring to new and younger smokers.
And, as said, my advice was less an admonition than an observation. People buying up what is suggested in pipes and tobacco goes back to my first days here, and older and wiser members said the same thing then.
I was going make a quip about your mother, but Mrs. Cosmic is always looming over my shoulder, ha ha.

 
Mar 29, 2016
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With all this, aromatics are still the craze for Baby Boomers, Gen X and Millennials. As long as Captain Black and its ilk reign supreme, the more "natural" tasting tobaccos will take a backbench. The market dictates everything and nobody will go out of their way to satisfy the "snobs" of pipe smoking. We're a minority in a very small market. I'm always astonished that I can still find a great Virginia flake or Latakia mixtures that smell and taste "old school". This will not last, I learned in life that good people and/or good stuff always disappear first. :puffy:

 

npod

Lifer
Jun 11, 2017
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OMG! This! Is a great post. I’m traveling and reading this on an airplane. Seriously, not only entertaining, but true in so many ways. Good on you. Carry on.

 

lazar

Can't Leave
May 5, 2015
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Personally for the most part this thread has annoyed the hell out of me. Yet here I am.
Me, too. And to think, it all started with an incorrect apostrophe.

 

jamban

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 6, 2018
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I am currently smoking 2004 Full Virginia Flake, 2006 Best Brown Flake and 2012 St James Flake. All are very tasty and age extremely well.
Harris, that is very enviable. I just feel lucky to snatch a tin here and there when i find them with 2 and half years of age on the shelves. Looking forward to 8 years from now. Hahaha!

 
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