Samuel Gawith: Limited Edition 2013 - WTF

[finnian3]

All,
I am cleaning out my cellar and doing inventory. I came across a few old tins of Gawith Limited....... now this tin was sealed shut, but when I opened the tin it was totally dried out. Anyone else have the same experience with this blend? I spent solid cash on this blend and was hoping it was going to be solid smoke. I know how to rehydrate but now I am thinking I need to check my other Limited tins.

 

[bent1]

Js it a square / rectangular press fit lid tin?

 

[3rdguy]

It is one of those large tins with an aromatic in it. They dry out in no time.

 

[BROBS]

It is one of those large tins with an aromatic in it. They dry out in no time.

Yup. There are some others that use them too they suck balls. Solani for one.

 

[mingc]

Not enough PPG.

 

[BROBS]

Not enough PPG.

The paint?

 

[verporchting]

Polypropylene Glycol I believe. PPG.

 

[mingc]

The paint?

Propylene glycol.

@verporchting beat me to it.

Works well. As you may remember, I've MB blends from the middle of the previous to last decade stored non-sealed containers that are still moist.

 

[BROBS]

It’s Propylene Glycol (PG) I believe?

 

[mingc]

It’s Propylene Glycol (PG) I believe?

That's probably right. PPG is polypropylene glycol and PG is propylene glycol. I don't know if one or both are used in pipe tobacco.

 

[captainsousie]

Careful there. This post violates rule 12. It could just be a bad seal, a mistreated tin or bad luck. Here's hoping the rest are ok.

 

[finnian3]

I am blaming the whole package. The tins do not have a seal and the bags were not too good either. This stuff ain't cheap. I was expecting more. There is was my mistake. Desire is the heart of suffering.

 

[finnian3]

I have a few more of these tins that I will need to inspect. Wish me luck.

 

[BROBS]

I have a few more of these tins that I will need to inspect. Wish me luck.

They will all be the same. The tobacco is inside in an unsealed pouch.

 

[elasmo]

I had the same problem with my last tin of Wintertime flake being bone dry. Dunno how old it was, but I'm pretty sure it was still sealed.

 

[anotherbob]

obviously these tins aren't designed for storage. Which sucks. But I don't think most tobacco makers even consider that much past the point of sale. I bet their thinking is that limited editions tins are going to be sold rapidly and they don't have to worry about them sitting on a store shelf for years so why make a perfect seal. My suggestion would be to write the company politely and express the disappointment with the tins. My other suggestion is next time you buy something in a sub par long term storage tin jar it. In fact anything you want to keep around for a long time jar. And also if you bought it in the after market be more careful and use your new found knowledge to be a happier pipe smoker.

 

[musicman]

Anecdotally, it seems like the square/rectangular tins such as Sam Gawith and MacBaren tins are the most prone to failure. In my (limited) experience I have only dealt with one tin that had lost it's seal, and it was a tin of MacBaren Mixture Flake, which I bought at a local B and M only to realize when I opened it that it wasn't sealed. Fortunately the tobacco was in pretty good shape (this place stores their tins in the walk-in humidor...which saved this tobacco but might create problems such as mold with others).

I think the CW on the forum is that to ensure no loss of moisture during aging these blends, putting the entire tin in a mylar bag for long term storage is the best solution.

 

[mingc]

The seals on these fancy pretty 100 gram tins didn't fail. THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED TO SEAL AT ALL. That's true of these SG tins. And KK's and Rattray's (which are made by KK) decorative 100g tins too. Also the really fancy little wooden boxes, like the old Cube. Therefore, act accordingly. Treat them as you would bulk tobacco, which doesn't come in a sealed container either.

 

[3rdguy]

I had the same problem with my last tin of Wintertime flake being bone dry. Dunno how old it was, but I'm pretty sure it was still sealed.

I find Wintertime is a great smoke even bone dry.

 

[PipeIT]

I just bought a 2013 tin a few months back, that I did a big ole post on the forum here, same thing, crispy to the bone dry when I got it, I ended up tossing it.

Yep, these big ole tins, you have to watch out for this. There are still companies out there selling their Tabac in big tins similar.