Sam Gawith Burnt Ends

[WerewolfOfLondon]

Yes I guess so as the ends kind of squelch out of the forming plate. As for the rest well I guess that will be for the individual smoker to decide on how they decide it smokes and what characteristics it has.

How come this is not available here?

 

[Sobrbiker]

I love the message that I've been temporarily banned from the site. Makes me feel good about being a customer.

Adds a nice “insult to injury” vibe, huh?

 

[ParkitoATL]

It's literally the edges of the block cut off from heat pressing. It hasn't gone through further processing, but being on the edges means that it's been processed differently from the rest of the block because it's where the tobacco is touching the hot metal. And it is distinctly different, and we think it's rather good.

Sykes what Peterson were you smoking in this video? Was it the 317?

 

[ParkitoATL]

Good news (apart from Burnt Ends) is that FVF boxes are back in stock. I grabbed 8oz for $45, which is a significant discount compared to the 25 pounds I paid for one tin in Oxford UK back in Sept.

Also wanted to note that the Burnt Ends were selling for $38/box when I was able to see them in stock. Is this correct? So they weren't asking premium prices, it was actually a discount compared to FVF at $45.

 

[alaskanpiper]

Yes I guess so as the ends kind of squelch out of the forming plate. As for the rest well I guess that will be for the individual smoker to decide on how they decide it smokes and what characteristics it has.

Copy, thanks!

 

[alaskanpiper]

Well I have not spoken to any retailers about this. And there is no one else he would have talked to as everyone on holiday.

all I can do is report what I’m told, that’s why I asked you! Thanks!

 

[AroEnglish]

Sykes what Peterson were you smoking in this video? Was it the 317?

Looks like a Spigot Rua 230 (non-system 317) or 221 (non-system 314)

 

[simong]

How come this is not available here?

She’s got a bee in her bonnet about the American market. Hence the forums presence.

 

[woodsroad]

No. Not at all. Pensioner's Mix is a Gawith Hoggarth blend, not a Samuel Gawith blend. And it is a mixture of all the bits and pieces from manufacturing. Burnt Ends is just based on FVF.

The two entities are one and the same.

 

[chilllucky]

The two entities are one and the same.

Currently, yes. But only for a handful of years (hardly any, compared against the lifespans of the companies). More importantly, they were not together at the time of ingredient sourcing or recipe writing.

I'm sure some 'efficiencies' are/will be taking effect (otherwise, why merge?) but I believe her when she says a G&H blend cannot be a re-branded SG blend or visa versa.

 

[woodsroad]

Currently, yes. But only for a handful of years (hardly any, compared against the lifespans of the companies). More importantly, they were not together at the time of ingredient sourcing or recipe writing.

I'm sure some 'efficiencies' are/will be taking effect (otherwise, why merge?) but I believe her when she says a G&H blend cannot be a re-branded SG blend or visa versa.

Why not?

 

[RustiePyles CPG]

Distilled fermented grapes with carbonation is called sparkling wine if it comes from anywhere other than the Champagne region of France. Burnt ends that come from anywhere other than Kansas City just aren’t burnt ends…

 

[chilllucky]

Why not?

I admit it's supposition, but I would think that seeing as pensioner's mix and full virginia flake were developed independently, based on different sources of ingredients, by two at the time separate companies, that they can still be considered different.

If they were very close to each other in flavor or composition, I would think G&H would rather drop the SG version than risk the ire of you lot by putting one blend into two tins.

 

[FurCoat]

I love the message that I've been temporarily banned from the site. Makes me feel good about being a customer.

I got the same message. I wasn't even looking for Burnt Ends.

 

[mingc]

The two entities are one and the same.

Here's a pre-merger picture of Sam Gawith's presses. I would not want to smoke any of its floor sweepings from that era. As a product of the 3rd world, this reminds me of the 3rd world except the 3rd world is cleaner. The picture is from here: Samuel Gawith, reportaje fotografico de Marcelino Piquero - https://rinconpipa.foroactivo.com/t3239-samuel-gawith-reportaje-fotografico-de-marcelino-piquero

 

[Auxsender]

Why not?

Surely you can imagine there are commercial and legal complications and considerations that might be outside your awareness that prevent it.
They want to make money and I suspect they’re doing what they can with what they have.

 

[ThermionicScott]

I, for one, bet those floor sweepings were delicious.

 

[swilford]

Sykes what Peterson were you smoking in this video? Was it the 317?

It's a Rua Spigot 230 (which is the classic range version of the 317).

Sykes

 

[woodsroad]

Surely you can imagine there are commercial and legal complications and considerations that might be outside your awareness that prevent it.
They want to make money and I suspect they’re doing what they can with what they have.

Actually, no.
I have difficulty imagining things that are outside my awareness!

 

[jguss]

Actually, no.
I have difficulty imagining things that are outside my awareness!

And oddly enough I have difficulty being aware of things outside my ability to imagine.