There's no top note to Victorian. The fruit you taste is from the tobaccos.
Rouxgaroux Is Gone
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Elizabethan Match was based on the Murray's version which was much better than STG's Dunhill iteration.
By several country miles.
I smoked a lot of the old Elizabethan over the years, and I have a bunch of the match in ribbon and plug form, too.
Bruce Weaver got me hooked on the Murray's version along with Three Year Matured Virginia.By several country miles.
Rougaroux is a very labor intensive blend to make, hence it's a special drop twice a year. Seems to me the last one, or maybe it was the one before that, actually lasted more than a day before it got bought out. It's always a guess how much to make, but it is one of WCC's best sellers.
I quite like it and have a few pounds bagged, so I have no need to buy more of it. Given the red wine in the topping, I'm doubtful that it will change very much with age, which is fine with me.
I would be remiss in not mentioning that @JimInks had a hand in developing it.
I quite like it and have a few pounds bagged, so I have no need to buy more of it. Given the red wine in the topping, I'm doubtful that it will change very much with age, which is fine with me.
I would be remiss in not mentioning that @JimInks had a hand in developing it.
Does Match have latakia? For some reason i was under the impression you hate Latakia. Just curious as i have not tried match and i like Latakia and I looked online and found a match with Latakia.
I wouldn’t cry if you didn’t get any, and you’ve never tried it.
I bought 4 ounces in 2020 and sold it all here, I wasn’t overly impressed.
Even after mine sat for over a year the Red VAs were still overly tangy, and bite could be bad if you weren’t careful.
Ken brought back Verge Engine Overdrive in 2022, maybe there will be some this year.
I’m certainly not Jim or the top VA guy, but I can tell you, that the Verge Engine Overdrive I smoked had more complexity, was smoother, also with very nice unique floral notes in it.
I have a good tongue, and I can taste subtle notes, know how to sip and hunt around, and Rouxgaroux was what I would called a more traditional high quality Red VAPer.
Verge Engine Overdrive, on the other hand wasn’t quite as traditional, with the unique floral notes.
I found Verge Engine Overdrive to be a more unique, handcrafted, boutique blend.
WCC certainly has great blends, no disrespect here intended.
Sure, everyone here has different likes, but, if you can get a hold of Verge Engine Overdrive, then you can compare for yourself.
I bought 4 ounces in 2020 and sold it all here, I wasn’t overly impressed.
Even after mine sat for over a year the Red VAs were still overly tangy, and bite could be bad if you weren’t careful.
Ken brought back Verge Engine Overdrive in 2022, maybe there will be some this year.
I’m certainly not Jim or the top VA guy, but I can tell you, that the Verge Engine Overdrive I smoked had more complexity, was smoother, also with very nice unique floral notes in it.
I have a good tongue, and I can taste subtle notes, know how to sip and hunt around, and Rouxgaroux was what I would called a more traditional high quality Red VAPer.
Verge Engine Overdrive, on the other hand wasn’t quite as traditional, with the unique floral notes.
I found Verge Engine Overdrive to be a more unique, handcrafted, boutique blend.
WCC certainly has great blends, no disrespect here intended.
Sure, everyone here has different likes, but, if you can get a hold of Verge Engine Overdrive, then you can compare for yourself.
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Nope. None of the Elizabethan blends or matches do. If it's got latakia, it's no match.
K. I must have read the wrong description. Id like to try the sutliff match you refer to. Can u pm me a link? Sorry I don’t follow all what you veterans refer to all the time and thanks
That one's easy to find. Many of the online retailers carry it.K. I must have read the wrong description. Id like to try the sutliff match you refer to. Can u pm me a link? Sorry I don’t follow all what you veterans refer to all the time and thanks
Match Victorian | Smokingpipes.com
A zesty blend of Virginias and Perique, Sutliff's Match Victorian offers a nostalgic nod to the legendary Murray's mixture, cut into fine ribbons for easy packing. Try it today in bulk!
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It reminds me of a VaPer from a dear departed tobacco company that way...
Thank you @Chasing Embers !! I found it at BnB for $28 a pound!!!!! I certainly hope I like it as much as you seem to cuz that’s my kinda price point! And i was looking at Match 20 previously. Thanks again!That one's easy to find. Many of the online retailers carry it.
Match Victorian | Smokingpipes.com
A zesty blend of Virginias and Perique, Sutliff's Match Victorian offers a nostalgic nod to the legendary Murray's mixture, cut into fine ribbons for easy packing. Try it today in bulk!
I really like Rouxgaroux and Match Victorian, I’ve got enough of both so I didn’t order any today. They are similar but different. Match Victorian is really good too, it is what I’d imagine you’d run across mid 20th century America, if you were to go into any B&M in the country and ask for their “house” VaPer… good stuff.
Try to get a hold of Verge Engine Overdrive if you haven’t tried it.
Match Victorian is also my favorite VaPer, it's fantastic and reliable. Not to mention cheap.
Bought a pound of Rouxagrarahroux last year, still have a pound minus a couple bowls, there are a lot of VaPers that i would choose over this. I do love their Simply Red, but for VaPers I'll stick with my favs and maybe revisit last years batch i have cellared away in a few weeks.
Well sense all you guys love match Victorian. What did I get? I purchased one pound from P@C and it was a chocolate aromatic. Nothing like a vaper at all. I also asked them what was up and they sent me a replacement pound. Both pounds sealed in a Sutliff bag labeled “Match Victorian”. Both pounds are full of black cavendish and have a heavy chocolate aro aromas. Do I need to purchase some from another retailer?
Agree with this assessment. A very enjoyable blend but I still have quite a bit of it from the last release.
I got my order for a pound in. We will will see if it lives up to all the hype.