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deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
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And then there's all that labeling, kind of like a warped version of the 1950's when people shouted "Pinko!" or "Fellow Traveler" or "Fifth columnist" with a mindless enthusiasm born of a fear of the different.
And then there's Kim Philby...

 

tuold

Lifer
Oct 15, 2013
2,133
172
Beaverton,Oregon
Suspension of disbelief counts for something in rating a movie, even in regard to fantasy/science fiction. I have no problem with females playing parts requiring combat and physical strength as long as they are cast appropriately, which they typically are not. Instead we see supermodels with pencil thin arms bashing the toughest of enemies with heavy swords or mowing them down with miniguns the weight of which no actress and few men could even hold outstretched for half a minute.
They are just movies though.

 

andrew

Lifer
Feb 13, 2013
3,120
588
Winnipeg, Canada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4FC4iHWkB0

The ilsa series is the most over the top in your face feminism I've ever encountered in a movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4FC4iHWkB0
https://youtu.be/9YS10vQ_ax8?list=PLgLR_q7h_XGt4pZxSM3SoPg-FkqDSLszK

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
Movies are programming however... they infect the mind, like all art and propaganda.
Did I mention Venona?

 

yaddy306

Lifer
Aug 7, 2013
1,372
505
Regina, Canada
Plus, of course, I'm going to be controversial about it, go ahead and separate the namby pamby PC cult lust from the individuals in the house.
It's more accurate to say you separated the ones with weird sexual hangups from those that couldn't give a shit whether or not the main character is female.

 

lochinvar

Lifer
Oct 22, 2013
1,687
1,640
Meh, Lucas put a bullet in the franchise's cranium with Phantom Menace. At this point, we're just watching the wrigglings of a corpse hooked to jumper cables.
I would just like a little good dialogue instead of after school special melodrama.

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
Lucas put a bullet in the franchise's cranium with Phantom Menace.
Good point. Now the franchise searches for "profundity" in the most hackneyed of places, on a dozen levels, and all of us just want another version of the first movie.

 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,235
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deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
35
that principle is contempt prior to investigation
I agree -- we should look into everything for what it is, not what we can categorize it as.
This is very important with music!

 

cullansghost

Lurker
Jun 13, 2016
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My complaint with mainstream Hollywood movies, is the constant regurgitation of the same ideas and premises. Nowadays Hollywood movies are the equivalent of fast-food, valuing profit over creativity. Not to mention the misinterpretations of "shocking and edgy" into being "vulgar and crass." Needless to say, 90% of the movies I watch and enjoy are 10 to 60 years older than I am.

 

perdurabo

Lifer
Jun 3, 2015
3,305
1,581
PC is just a new form of NewsSpeak or Doublespeak. It's control of how you voice a certain opinion. If you say this or that you're a sexist, racist, bigot, etc.,...Boxes: which one will we put you in today.
Cullansghost, I couldn't agree more. The majority of the films I gravitate towards are older than I am. Better to leave some of these new offerings to the younger generation, for which they are intended.

 

deathmetal

Lifer
Jul 21, 2015
7,714
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PC is just a new form of NewsSpeak or Doublespeak.
Politics never changes.
"Are you a Royalist?" said the Revolutionary Guard, bringing his rifle to face front.
"Surely you do not support drunk driving?" said the angry mother, clutching her flyers.
"You're not one of those uncool kids who likes death metal?" asked the skeptical hipster.
...it's all the same. People want to enforce opinion, and what matters is whether they are right or not. Consult William S. Burroughs for the rest :)

 

perdurabo

Lifer
Jun 3, 2015
3,305
1,581
Of course Tom, you little weasels needed to be squeaked a little. Some times wonder how many weasels we have haunting around here. Trolling? Naw, it was an honest assessment. Just being brash. Quite simple really. In a way, very productive.

 
May 4, 2015
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Feeling the need to "squeak weasels" for your own entertainment = trolling.
And if disagreeing with your over-simplified and beat-to-death anti-feminist drivel is being a weasel, then "squeak squeak".

 

maxx

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 10, 2015
709
7
My interest in Star Wars vaporized when Samuel Jackson and that whiny character (Jarjar?) showed up. I quit right then in disgust and have had no interest since. I personally never cared about Luke or the Princess or the comic book Dark Father (Darth Vader) anyway.
As far as political correctness - of course it's real. It's the secular religion of the age.

 

akfilm

Can't Leave
Mar 2, 2016
309
2
First. They will ignore the bothans will not be featured, they stole the SECOND death star plans, not the first, all we know about the first ones is that they were stolen by rebels and carried by Princess Lei soon afterwards.

Second. The head of the Star Wars franchise and the EP is Kathleen Kennedy..a woman, a woman who has also said she would LOVE to see a female director for a Star Wars film. A female lead is also a numbers game, the majority of movie goers are women (not by much, but it's growing), if you have a market that's growing, and growing rapidly, you'll cater to it. And story is king, it shouldn't matter if it's male, female, white or black etc.

 
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