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Jaylotw

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I’ve never sweated having to smoke outside. In all the bar gigs I’ve played, all the travel I’ve done, I meet the fellow smokers outside and can have a convo without loud music blaring (or having to perform the loud music myself). It’s how I met my girlfriend, and countless others. I fully understand and respect that tobacco smoke can not only bother people but cause damage and stains in property. The only indoor space I smoke in is the garage, and only when it’s below freezing outside on the porch, and in my vehicle.
 
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sandollars

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I visited the UK last year in August for the first time since 2002. Back then smoking in pubs and hotel bars was the norm. It was quite a contrast to have to go outside to smoke. The pubs certainly smelled better but the craic wasn't the same if you catch my drift.

Due to inclement weather I smoked a fairly quick bowl of Five Brothers outside the Kirkstone Top (Kirkstone Pass Inn) and it was very enjoyable gazing upon Red Screes once again.
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Lovely Pub, that.
 

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saltedplug

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I had a landlord who prohibited indoor smoking. I usually complied but did it anyway when the spirit moved me.

To have a landlord restrict what can be done with his property is one thing, but for the government to make a blanket prohibition is outrageous. Yes, beat it in the courts.
 
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northernpipeshed

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In a lot of places, in blocks of flats or smaller shared plots smoking is not allowed in the UK, you have to go out of the block, usually walk around the corner/to the edge of the parking lot to smoke or even vape.

I'm beginning to even agree with it when we're talking about any sort of shared space. What bugs me though is how precious and childish a lot of people are getting nowadays. Makes me think they're not people you can rely on if shit hits the fan, say they witness a mugging, an abduction of a child, robbery, racist abuse etc etc etc, will they get in and help or will they stand there to video with their phones, or walk on pretending not to notice not to mess their nice clothes?

I was looking for a house in the UK last year and was told that tenants without children are preferred in one place, which to me is borderline as bad as saying people of colour are "not preferred", so if people go that far where do you think smoking stands?
I had an argument with a woman who had chain smoked cigarettes on a nice....quite large outdoor smoking terrace for around an hour............When I lit up a big cigar she started coughing a complaining......She was told where to go..........and did!
 

Grangerous

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It's just that simple.. let the customers decide.
In the United States most Casinos permit smoking because Gaming brings in big revenue for local and state governments.

I guess if people wish to gamble, they’ll accept smoke as a part of that experience. Of course, Casino restaurants are no smoking and the air filtration is far more accomadating to non smokers.

I grew up in the 70’s. When I was old enough to frequent bars and clubs, the “hangover” was not from drinking, so much as breathing smoke you could barely see through. The saturation in hair and clothing, I can still remember. It’s Repugnant. I never smoked cigarettes but every older generation family member did. It’s a big paradigm shift for sure.

I see Pipe Lounges as an opportunity. There are Cigar lounges. There are Hookah lounges. There are Vape spots and soon, Marijuana. Why not cater to the Pipe?
 

gerryp

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Wow this thread is still going? Lol.
I was reading a post that mentioned, a number of times, how selfish smoking is. I could fill the interwebs with examples of selfish things people do. I don't think pipe smoking is the worst, and being selfish isn't always bad,
Putting up with a certain amount of other people's bullshit is one of the downsides of living in society. In society, other people will always have a certain amount of bullshit. Going off the grid might be the least selfish way to avoid said bullshit. I've considered it, but it would be way too much work. 😁
 

BROBS

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In the United States most Casinos permit smoking because Gaming brings in big revenue for local and state governments.

I guess if people wish to gamble, they’ll accept smoke as a part of that experience. Of course, Casino restaurants are no smoking and the air filtration is far more accomadating to non smokers.

I grew up in the 70’s. When I was old enough to frequent bars and clubs, the “hangover” was not from drinking, so much as breathing smoke you could barely see through. The saturation in hair and clothing, I can still remember. It’s Repugnant. I never smoked cigarettes but every older generation family member did. It’s a big paradigm shift for sure.

I see Pipe Lounges as an opportunity. There are Cigar lounges. There are Hookah lounges. There are Vape spots and soon, Marijuana. Why not cater to the Pipe?
That’s because mainly scuzzos go to a casino.
 

dandi 92

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i think smog is even worse than smoke in London, Milan or New York City, smoke is nothing compared to environmental pollution, even better than pipe where you don't throw anything on the ground like cigarette!!!!
 

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