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conlejm

Lifer
Mar 22, 2014
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"That's amazing!" he ejaculated...
I always chuckle when I read that expression in 19th and early 20th century writing.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,264
30,361
Carmel Valley, CA
Rule 16: Never use a large word when a diminutive one will suffice.........
And I live in Yolo County, CA— nothing to do with the kid's phrase, YOLO! But grammatically it should be: You live only once! But that lacks impact and "YLOO" sounds like a sound a bird in the swamp would make.

 

beerandbaccy

Starting to Get Obsessed
Apr 22, 2015
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UK
A "guy" was originally a frightful figure, due to Guy Fawkes who thought that the parliament didn't look good and fancied blowing it up during the 17th century. Now a guy is just about any guy.
Guy was an Anglicisation of 'Guido' which was Guy Fawkes real name!
Making a 'Guy' was the process that children used to and still occasionally do in making a figure to burn on a Bonfire on Guy Fawkes Night or Bonfire Night on the 5th of November. I guess as the effigy was poorly dressed and looked a bit scary the term 'Guy' then went on to mean a badly dressed or horrible looking man.
They shout out 'Penny for the Guy!' as payment for making the effigy! (although these days the penny is more likely to be a pound!)
Just thought I'd let some of the Non-Brits here in on some useless cultural info!!

 

brudnod

Part of the Furniture Now
Aug 26, 2013
938
6
Great Falls, VA
Intercourse used to mean any interaction with another; I guess it might still mean that, in a different context...

"Fixin'" and "carry me" are two southern expressions that are heard in the deep south. The former is used to mean preparing to do something as in "I'm fixin' to cut the grass" (usually with the intent of procrastinating). The latter is used to transport someone as in "Could you carry me to the store?". My favorite is "mash". I was interviewing for a residency position at the [then] Children's Hospital National Medical Center in Washington, DC and was boarding an elevator. I asked the person in front of me to "mash 4". Everyone simultaneously turned around and looked at me like I had just arrived from another planet. Of course, I was just asking them to press the button for the 4th floor!

 

pipesinperu

Starting to Get Obsessed
Apr 21, 2014
189
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'Liberal' as a word for a political position in the US.
@Maxx: I was quite confused when I first came to Peru and was learning Spanish and heard "liberal" (spelled the same, pronounced a bit differently in Spanish, haha) used to mean "conservative"... Turns out they are using it to refer more to "economic liberalism" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism), which is something we would tend to associate more closely with conservatives or libertarians in the U.S. Is that the way the rest of the world uses the word?

 

phil67

Lifer
Dec 14, 2013
2,052
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Then we have the word 'niggardly' which means:
1. reluctant to give or spend; stingy; miserly.

2. meanly or ungenerously small or scanty:

A word used by a congressmen (can't remember his name)several years ago, in it's correct context, during a speech and was chastised beyond belief by both whites and blacks alike. It's simply an adjective meaning "stingy" or "miserly", but because of its phonetic similarity to the racial slur "nigger" the ignorant went up in arms, including the media, but then we all know full well that the media has the I.Q. of an egg shell. Etymologically the two words are unrelated.

 

haddoken

Lurker
Sep 8, 2015
43
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When things "bomb" it's bad. - That movie bombed at the box office.

But if things are "bomb" it's good. - This tin of tobacco is the bomb.

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
45,630
121,397
Guy was an Anglicisation of 'Guido' which was Guy Fawkes real name!
Guy Fawkes (/ˈɡaɪ ˈfɔːks/; 13 April 1570 –31 January 1606), also known as Guido Fawkes,the name he adopted while fighting for the Spanish, was a member of a group of provincial English Catholics who planned the failed Gunpowder Plot of 1605.
-courtesy Wikipedia

 

pappymac

Lifer
Feb 26, 2015
3,623
5,246
Slidell, LA
@Maxx: I was quite confused when I first came to Peru and was learning Spanish and heard "liberal" (spelled the same, pronounced a bit differently in Spanish, haha) used to mean "conservative"... Turns out they are using it to refer more to "economic liberalism" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism), which is something we would tend to associate more closely with conservatives or libertarians in the U.S. Is that the way the rest of the world uses the word?
In many parts of the United States, "liberal" is a synonym for "socialist or communist" (I tend to agree with this for the most part but that's another discussion.)

I also laugh to my self when people refer to the communism as a political party. At one time communism was just the act of living in a commune. But people today still refer to the old USSR as being a communist country. What they overlook is the obvious which is skillfully hidden in the old name - Union of Soviet Socialist Russia - that they lived under a socialist form of government.
But then again, every one seems to think the United States is a democratic government when in reality it is a representative form of government.

 

wallace

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 20, 2012
126
1
Just heard a quote by author Ursula Le Guin saying something like, "You can't change culture unless you change the meaning of it's words." Words like that have made me completely distrustful of most anything I hear, see or read anymore. Is there such thing as intellectual honesty anymore? I understand that our culture could use some change, but why resort to word games and semantic manipulation to do it?

 

perdurabo

Lifer
Jun 3, 2015
3,305
1,581
Happy was once understood as moral risk not joy. Militia was understood as able bodied man. It's helpful to have knowledge of the origins of the word used.

 

12pups

Lifer
Feb 9, 2014
1,063
2
Minnesota
*Used* to be there was a language called "English." Now it's like Coke: which one?
British English

Canadian English

Australian English

American English

Indian English
... and now, the "new" English of word trade, "Global English"
An Indian tried to correct my copy once in approvals. He had wanted a word used that my dictionaries don't include. He thought it logical, because if a negating prefix could be attached to the root, why not an affirming prefix? Well, I told him, it just isn't done that way. But the word *is* in the new Global English dictionary (I think that first came out in 2014).
I appreciate now the complaints of British editors about Americanisms and concern that their expertise no longer matters. I was hired for my own expertise in American written English and am realizing my days are numbered. The silly little rules and etymologies I tried so hard to preserve as an English teacher no longer seem to matter much. Indian and Pakistani writers/editors compete for freelance projects against me. And win contracts (bidding well beneath our rates).
Frost: "Nothing gold can stay."

 
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