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Indygrap

Can't Leave
Oct 18, 2022
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All my life, New Whore Leans (hillbilly pronunciation) has been famous for Bourbon Street whores and cross dressers and and general debachery , sin, vice, corruption, danger and a place were the whiskey and blood flow together down the streets. In fact all Louisiana has somewhat of that Sodom and Gommarah reputation

When my mother and I visited in 1977 a drag queen in a bar commented on how lovely my mother’s complexion was while I moved over as far away as I could, but he wasn’t interested in me.:)

I’m sure their coffee still sucks and is laced with chicory and the horse drawn carriages haul the tourists around to see dead people piled up high above ground.

But has New Orleans sobered up some?

Xxxx

Louisiana ranks 31st in the nation for excessive drinking, reporting that 17.4% of the state's adults are binge drinking (four or more drinks on one occasion in the past 30 days for females, or five or more for males) or heavily drinking (eight or more drinks per week for females, or 15 or more for males).


——-

Oil and gas and international trade have lifted all boats in Cajun country.

When people are happier they sin a lot less, you know?

It’s

Pumped a lot of (pro)pane in New Whore Leans.:)

Proud Mary

The days of Storyville are long over. There’s still a good bit of debauchery that goes on in The Quarter, but compared to the previous 300 year history, it’s a drop in the bucket. I’m not surprised at LA ranking 31st in binge drinking. The top half of The Boot is particularly conservative. I took a trip up north of Alexandria to a friend’s cabin & it was in a “dry” parish. Couldn’t believe it. Most people below I-10 consider anything above East Arkansas.
The Creoles & Cajuns down the bayou still know how to have fun, though. If they like you, you’ll never go hungry or thirsty!
 
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cosmicfolklore

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Aug 9, 2013
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I blame microbreweries and IPAs. Guys all standing around drinking shit that tastes like you’re chewing lemon peels, pecan bitters, and old carpet, pretending that it tastes good. A lot of these giys will eventually wake up and be like… “blech!”

I kid, I kid… sort of.
But, in reality I would rather just not drink if the only beverages came from microbreweries.
 

woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
14,454
29,340
SE PA USA
I blame microbreweries and IPAs. Guys all standing around drinking shit that tastes like you’re chewing lemon peels, pecan bitters, and old carpet, pretending that it tastes good. A lot of these giys will eventually wake up and be like… “blech!”

I kid, I kid… sort of.
But, in reality I would rather just not drink if the only beverages came from microbreweries.
Granted, there are a lot of sub-par microbreweries and brewpubs out there, but some of the best beers that I’ve ever had came from them, too. Beer styles, like pipe tobacco, tend to polarize. I g nerally detest girly beers, brews with fruit and other weird scents added. The exception, of course, would be Belgian lambic guezes like Kreik. But a good IPA is a thing of beauty and satisfaction. Just because the style became trendy with people who don’t know their anal pore from an excavated depression in the earth does diminish their goodness and appeal for me.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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Humansville Missouri
I have a personal theory your favorite beer tends to be the very first six pack you bought.

For me it was Pabst Blue Ribbon (what else for any 17 year old boy in 1975?)


I had my best friend Johnny buy the six pack from some old lesbian couple over by Nemo who shined up to Johnny, while my widowed mother was overnight in the Osceola hospital for inhaling a piece of plastic and she’d had me pick up my grandmother Ma Agee in her 1973 Caprice to babysit me at our home south of Bug Tussle.

We split it three cans each, on a gravel road party spot, with the lights of Humansville shining like diamonds in the Brush Creek valley to our view on a hill about two miles away.

Then I drove home and we didn’t have air conditioning and I slept in the basement in the summer, and on the last step twisted my ankle.

I was 17 and bullet proof, and thought I’d sprained it and went to sleep.

Next morning when Grandma yelled down breakfast was ready I got up and fell over the first step I took on my right leg.

I hobbled upstairs, and my ankle was so swollen Grandma insisted I drive Mama’s car over to Osceola to pick her up and there the doctors determined I’d suffered a hairline fracture someplace that hurt really bad, and they put a cast on it.

All the way driving Grandma home she lectured my Mama what a good boy I was and offered to pay for a safe set of steps to the basement but Mama of course, had it done by Red Mauzey, when he was sober, and the new steps are still in service today.


It might not be the taste of your first six pack, so much as all the fond memories, you know?
 
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greeneyes

Lifer
Jun 5, 2018
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This Science news article out today: "Don’t blame the algorithm: Polarization may be inherent in social media. In simulations, AI-generated users of stripped-down social media without content algorithms still split into polarized echo chambers."

From the original research article (which is free to read):

"Political discourse in the digital age is increasingly shaped by a small number of dominant social media platforms – systems that influence what information people encounter, whose voices are amplified, and how political conflict is perceived. Once hailed as catalysts for a revitalized public sphere, many scholars now agree that these platforms provide limited support for the forms of constructive political dialogue deemed vital to democratic life. The platforms have been criticized for insulating users from opposing perspectives, for concentrating visibility and influence in the hands of a small elite of users, and for amplifying sensational or divisive content, producing a distorted “social media prism” through which politics appears more extreme and conflictual. While the downstream consequences of these dynamics remain debated, a large body of research has examined possible links between social media use and polarization, radicalization, and the spread of misinformation."
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,522
Humansville Missouri
This Science news article out today: "Don’t blame the algorithm: Polarization may be inherent in social media. In simulations, AI-generated users of stripped-down social media without content algorithms still split into polarized echo chambers."

From the original research article (which is free to read):

"Political discourse in the digital age is increasingly shaped by a small number of dominant social media platforms – systems that influence what information people encounter, whose voices are amplified, and how political conflict is perceived. Once hailed as catalysts for a revitalized public sphere, many scholars now agree that these platforms provide limited support for the forms of constructive political dialogue deemed vital to democratic life. The platforms have been criticized for insulating users from opposing perspectives, for concentrating visibility and influence in the hands of a small elite of users, and for amplifying sensational or divisive content, producing a distorted “social media prism” through which politics appears more extreme and conflictual. While the downstream consequences of these dynamics g debated, a large body of research has examined possible links between social media use and polarization, radicalization, and the spread of misinformation."

From the swinging front doors of the Humansville Tavern if you leave and look due South two blocks away, about 300 steps, is the always unlocked rear door of the Humansville Christian Church east annex with a light that used to burn on Sunday mornings until a young deacon came to turn the switch.

Our tasks as deacon, included checking if the cot was clean and the refrigerator stocked, and to prepare the grape juice and tiny crackers for communion.

Usually the beer joint patrons would be gone by a quarter of ten, with money left in a cup.

But sometimes I’d have to wake them up, by brewing hot coffee, and offering them something to eat.

And I’d look across at that beer joint, and wonder if that was all by design, to bring the two congregations closer.
 

greeneyes

Lifer
Jun 5, 2018
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And I’d look across at that beer joint, and wonder if that was all by design, to bring the two congregations closer.
Could very well be. In the Tavern each man has his own two feet to worry about. Whether that reckoning sees him home to his warm bed each night, or to a cot across the street is his own doing. For my part, I'll make sure my family isn't crossing the street that night to bear witness whether he drove, or walked.
 
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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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Humansville Missouri
Could very well be. In the Tavern each man has his own two feet to worry about. Whether that reckoning sees him home to his warm bed each night, or to a cot across the street is his own doing. For my part, I'll make sure my family isn't crossing the street that night to bear witness whether he drove, or walked.

I was almost or close to thirty when a woman paid me a large sum of money to defend her wayward son, from burglary charges for waking up drunk inside a church who didn’t have Christian elders assigning the young deacons to feeding and watering the drunks found in their annex. It was about a two hour drive to the courthouse.

At the preliminary hearing the female prosecutor agreed to amend the charges to trespassing and defer prosecution if he left town and never came back.

After he and his mother left and the judge went back into chambers the prosecutor asked me if that story was actually true.

I laughed and said I tend to leave out the part where the Humansville night watchman turned the light switch on each evening and knew a place to separate warring couples, or send men too drunk to drive.

She shook her head and laughed and said why don’t we go have a drink at our local tavern and they have the best fish around every Friday?

I said thanks but my wife’s teaching school and my son is at the day care directly in back of my office, where I can look out the back and see him playing. I need to pick him up and take him fishing with me.

But thank you, for the invatation.

Bill Anderson wrote City Lights in a little town that only had one light shining above a bar at midnight in 1956—

Sing one Ray Price

 

Rockyrepose

Lifer
Oct 16, 2019
1,532
15,116
Wyoming USA
I used to grease the skids at my local liquor store by providing lunch's and Crumbl cookies and what not. Funny thing about that, I have a lot of allocated whisky still boxed up under the stairwell as a result. I'm not saying the lottery was rigged but it didn't hurt. I quit drinking probably two years ago now, I didn't set the date, I just wanted to feel good when I woke up everyday. Dropped some weight and feel great as a result. I do miss the flavors but nothing else about it. I suppose I keep it around in case of a terminal illness puffy
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,522
Humansville Missouri
Regarding class differences——-

A poem my mother would recite from memory—-

Maud Muller

Maud Muller on a summer's day
Raked the meadow sweet with hay.

Beneath her torn hat glowed the wealth
Of simple beauty and rustic health.

Singing, she wrought, and her merry glee
The mock-bird echoed from his tree.

But when she glanced to the far-off town
White from its hill-slope looking down,

The sweet song died, and a vague unrest
And a nameless longing filled her breast,-

A wish that she hardly dared to own,
For something better than she had known.

The Judge rode slowly down the lane,
Smoothing his horse's chestnut mane.

He drew his bridle in the shade
Of the apple-trees, to greet the maid,

And asked a draught from the spring that flowed
Through the meadow across the road.

She stooped where the cool spring bubbled up,
And filled for him her small tin cup,

And blushed as she gave it, looking down
On her feet so bare, and her tattered gown.

"Thanks!" said the Judge; "a sweeter draught
From a fairer hand was never quaffed."

He spoke of the grass and flowers and trees,
Of the singing birds and the humming bees;

Then talked of the haying, and wondered whether
The cloud in the west would bring foul weather.

And Maud forgot her brier-torn gown
And her graceful ankles bare and brown;

And listened, while a pleased surprise
Looked from her long-lashed hazel eyes.

At last, like one who for delay
Seeks a vain excuse, he rode away.

Maud Muller looked and sighed: "Ah me!
That I the Judge's bride might be!

"He would dress me up in silks so fine,
And praise and toast me at his wine.

"My father should wear a broadcloth coat;
My brother should sail a pointed boat.

"I'd dress my mother so grand and gay,
And the baby should have a new toy each day.

"And I'd feed the hungry and clothe the poor,
And all should bless me who left our door."

The Judge looked back as he climbed the hill,
And saw Maud Muller standing still.

"A form more fair, a face more sweet,
Ne'er hath it been my lot to meet.

"And her modest answer and graceful air
Show her wise and good as she is fair.

"Would she were mine, and I to-day,
Like her, a harvester of hay.

"No doubtful balance of rights and wrongs,
Nor weary lawyers with endless tongues,

"But low of cattle and song of birds,
And health and quiet and loving words."

But he thought of his sisters, proud and cold,
And his mother, vain of her rank and gold.

So, closing his heart, the Judge rode on,
And Maud was left in the field alone.

But the lawyers smiled that afternoon,
When he hummed in court an old love-tune;

And the young girl mused beside the well
Till the rain on the unraked clover fell.

He wedded a wife of richest dower,
Who lived for fashion, as he for power.

Yet oft, in his marble hearth's bright glow,
He watched a picture come and go;

And sweet Maud Muller's hazel eyes
Looked out in their innocent surprise.

Oft, when the wine in his glass was red,
He longed for the wayside well instead;

And closed his eyes on his garnished rooms
To dream of meadows and clover-blooms.

And the proud man sighed, and with a secret pain,
"Ah, that I were free again!

"Free as when I rode that day,
Where the barefoot maiden raked her hay."

She wedded a man unlearned and poor,
And many children played round her door.

But care and sorrow, and childbirth pain,
Left their traces on heart and brain.

And oft, when the summer sun shone hot
On the new-mown hay in the meadow lot,

And she heard the little spring brook fall
Over the roadside, through a wall,

In the shade of the apple-tree again
She saw a rider draw his rein;

And, gazing down with timid grace,
She felt his pleased eyes read her face.

Sometimes her narrow kitchen walls
Stretched away into stately halls;

The weary wheel to a spinet turned,
The tallow candle an astral burned,

And for him who sat by the chimney lug,
Dozing and grumbling o'er pipe and mug,

A manly form at her side she saw,
And joy was duty and love was law.

Then she took up her burden of life again,
Saying only, "It might have been."

Alas for the maiden, alas for the Judge,
For rich repiner and househole drudge!

God pity them both and pity us all,
Who vainly the dreams of youth recall.

For of all sad words of tongue or pen,
The saddest are these: "It might have been!"

Ah, well! for us all some sweet hope lies
Deeply buried from human eyes;

And, in the hereafter, angels may
Roll the stone from its grave away!

——

And yet, sometimes in same afternoon, she’d get her guitar and sing Two Different Worlds


Such lessons remembered, in Catholic towns with good Catholic girls as the prosector who’d ask out a man wearing a wedding ring to a tavern after he’d told a story about being only 300 steps from a beer joint, that might as well have been 300 miles:
 
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Indygrap

Can't Leave
Oct 18, 2022
303
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New Orleans, LA
Why, thank you for the lovely recommendation of New Orleans as a vacation spot.

If New Orleans only ranks 31st in the nation for excessive drinking, the study must have been conducted during the summer and not during football season or Mardi Gras.
See he didn’t mention New Orleans, he said Louisiana. Don’t forget about north LA, or west Arkansas, if you prefer. Apparently there are still dry parishes up there!?!?
Even as much as New Orleans is touted as a party town, we don’t drink as much as most counties in Wisconsin.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,522
Humansville Missouri
In my box of life’s trophies and memories there is a Polaroid photo of Brother Billy Carter and a 19 year old me taken by my mother and signed by Billy, and an empty can of Pabst Blue Ribbon beer I bought and drank in his gas station in Plains Georgia.

My mother and I visited in early August 1977 The Hermitage, The White House, the Smithsonian, the Lincoln memorial, Colonial Williamsburg, the statue of Robert E Lee at Richmond, and on to Plains Georgia before we made the run over to New Orleans.

Mama traded in her 1973 Caprice and bought a brand new 1977 Olds Cutlass Supreme 350 4 barrel with rocket wheels and the full New Whore Leans Whorehouse grade plush velvet interior.:)

After he posed for my photo Billy Carter went over to his cash register and looked worried about something. His employee, a kid about my age, had gassed up our new car and finshed checking the air and washing all the glass.

Then the brother of the sitting president of the United States rang up the total for a tank of gasoline and a beer he’d sold to a 19 year old kid and a Coke to his mother and some peanuts and I tipped the attendant a dollar as I left.

Mama said you’ve been drinking, so it’s better I drive.:)

And as she drove past the home of Jimmy and Roslyn she said, the hardest thing Miss Lillian does is to pretend she loves her two sons exactly the same. I’m so glad, you are my one and only.

And I forget who led off, but we started singing Picture From Life’s Other Side

 
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Old_Newby

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 1, 2022
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The kids all smoke weed.
My son and his friends (19-21) and my nephew/nieces and their friends (late 20’s) all seem to prefer smoking to drinking and quite a few abstain all together. Just my observation- may not reflect reality lol.
This is the new drink. My son prefers this over smoking or alcohol.

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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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Humansville Missouri
In New Orleans the hot August of 1977 on our horse drawn tour of Boubon Street I learned (to my utter shock) that many of the Bourbon Street ladies were actually men dressed like ladies.

Those songs I knew glamorized the poor girls who sold themselves to lonely men but the actual reality was tawdry, cheap, and so very pitiful.

The real girls sat bored in slit dresses talking to the bartenders while the drag queens flocked to my mother’s table to admire her hair and her shoes and her diamonds and, to my relief they paid no attention to me whatsoever.

One of the queens asked Mama, have you arranged for your son there, a suitable companion?

And Mama took out a photo of me and my girlfriend, a part time model whose Daddy was the richest banker in the Ozarks, who I had a date to escort to the Missouri State Fair when we got back home.

And the queens put up a roar of approval and I looked over at some poor girl at the bar staring down at the drink she was nursing.

And I thought, we are a long damned way from Bug Tussle, you know?

Before Jessie Died

 
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Pipeandapencil

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 18, 2024
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Mobile, Alabama
Way too much to try and read to catch up on this thread... but at 36 I'm relatively young. I drink a little here and there but honestly it just doesn't deliver on what it promises. If I want to relax pipe or cigar do way better, plus they don't wreck my sleep and mess up the following day. Everyone I know is too busy to wreck a day nursing even a mild hangover.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,522
Humansville Missouri
This is the new drink. My son prefers this over smoking or alcohol.

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Only twice as expensive a dose as Fireballs with no hangovers.

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Judge not, that ye be not judged.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

——

When our Master delivered those words from the Mount of Olives there likely were vendors selling wine to the thirsty crowd.

The idea is to teach people not to want it.

And to choose the righteous path instead.

At the Missouri State Fair in 1977, I won a girl who looked exactly like a decade younger prettier sister of Emmylou Harris a huge teddy bear at the Machine Guns.

It was really simple to beat the Machine Guns at the fairs, back then. I won on my first $5.

Another fair game I could always win first time was ringing the bell with the big hammer. After thousands upon thousands of times hitting a fence post dead center, that was easy too,

Young men always find a way to show off for the pretty girls at the fairs, then and now.

Wayfaring Stranger

 
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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,522
Humansville Missouri
My four children asked me why I was so opposed to legal cannabis and I’d take out my package of cigarettes and say the first carton of Menthol Salems I bought only cost me $3.20 from a lady I served communion to at the Humansville Christian Church. I was barely 14, in 1972. I’ve never missed a payment to the devil since.

If it’s legal, it will be moral.

They will come in mint candy flavors so popular with the children

And the little boys will make sure the little girls they like have their own supply if they run out, and the little girls will make sure they have some to offer.:)


And the reason my generation will lose the war against weed is no mother wants their child to buy it from stone, cold criminals who have worse drugs to offer.