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georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
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16,263
Your post has been identified as MISINFORMATION, and the standard fine has been deducted from your CBDC Carbon Credit account. This has resulted in a negative balance at this time, which hereby revokes all of your CO2 producing privileges.

You will be provided with the opportunity to earn additional credits through mandatory REEDUCATION at the nearest Carbon Compliance Camp.

The People's Bus will be by within the hour...please be ready and waiting at the curb.

Reads like a comedy skit ^^^^ but is exactly how controlling large populations is done.

It's because straight-up mobster-style terror indeed scares the people you want to scare, but also scares the ones you don't.

Give conditional supporters and on-the-fencers a rationalized and reasonable(ish)-sounding explanation to fuel their own self delusion plus use as a "pushback weapon" when their "getting with the program" is questioned by other citizens, though, prevents widespread fear in the short term and gives people time to get used to "new ideas". (i.e. makes it easier for them to rationalize their complete surrender without resistance in the future).

It's not just part of the Takeover Manual, but confirmed by those I've met and talked to at length about the subject who've personally experienced it. People raised in a totalitarian society who risked everything to escape. In one case, a six month process of border jumping and hiding out in several countries on the way to the USA. If he'd been caught and sent back, he would have been tortured to death.

His take on the direction the "woke" Western world is moving now, you ask? Suicide.
 

VDL_Piper

Lifer
Jun 4, 2021
1,500
14,605
Tasmania, Australia
That one's easy. Maximize profit. Companies are urging their customers to use their apps, like McDonalds. Why? Because the apps on your phone collect data that the companies sell to consumer data analytics firms which collect the data, organize it in meaningful ways, and in turn sell it to various industries to allow them to better increase what you pay. It's a form of price fixing, which while illegal for companies to do face to face, is currently in a gray legal area when it comes to receiving data from a 3rd party supplier for the same purpose.
Not when you fall down the rabbit hole like I did. There is always more to the story……
 

renfield

Lifer
Oct 16, 2011
5,113
41,480
Kansas
Recall was the last straw for me. I switched my main machine over to Linux Mint last week. My other machines will soon follow.

No reason whatsoever to believe Microsoft will keep their promises that everything will be local and you can actually turn it off. Never mind the potential security problems of having a key logger as part of the OS.

For more of the same look at the recent stories about what Adobe had buried in their update to their terms of service.
 
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Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
3,680
18,730
Connecticut, USA
That one's easy. Maximize profit. Companies are urging their customers to use their apps, like McDonalds. Why? Because the apps on your phone collect data that the companies sell to consumer data analytics firms which collect the data, organize it in meaningful ways, and in turn sell it to various industries to allow them to better increase what you pay. It's a form of price fixing, which while illegal for companies to do face to face, is currently in a gray legal area when it comes to receiving data from a 3rd party supplier for the same purpose.
Its not a grey area for 5 eyes apparently. ;)
 

pylorns

Lifer
Aug 20, 2013
2,201
641
Austin, Texas
www.thepipetool.com
Not sure I am understanding enough of this, but is George Orwell in play here, albeit with bigger tools of manipulation?
Absolutely. And everytime this stuff happens, I go re-install linux and see if I can get parity with the programs that I use. I've gotten really close with one exception - I can't get Adobe products like photoshop to work there without creating a VM and installing an instance of windows in the VM. It's a potential workable solution but really, I just want all the things to work in Linux for once where I could use it.

Oh, and for some reason zoom meetings - zoom can't blur your background on linux....

But that said, if you just browse forums, do some online pipe shopping, check your email, even game and basic things where you don't need photoshop - Linux now works great.
 
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renfield

Lifer
Oct 16, 2011
5,113
41,480
Kansas
Absolutely. And everytime this stuff happens, I go re-install linux and see if I can get parity with the programs that I use. I've gotten really close with one exception - I can't get Adobe products like photoshop to work there without creating a VM and installing an instance of windows in the VM. It's a potential workable solution but really, I just want all the things to work in Linux for once where I could use it.
Sounds like my experience over the years. Linux keeps getting better and over time there are more good replacements for Win apps. So close. So close.
 
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Elric

Lifer
Sep 19, 2019
2,290
10,445
Liplapper Lane (Michigan)
I've been a full-time Linux user for over 20 years. It's works well for my needs. I do have a Windows partition on a separate laptop strictly for games and support software for some music gear (pedals and amps). I could live without the music software and buy a Steam deck for games, then I would be fully free of M$ silliness.
 

BingBong

Lifer
Apr 26, 2024
1,291
5,610
London UK
‘Splain me “Ring 0”.
What about John and Paul?
Ah well, it's laziness. Each layer of the system radiates out from the kernel, which is Ring 0. In Unix systems and their analogues, nothing else lives there - a desktop is Ring 1, an application Ring 2, you have chokepoint control between each layer which prevents monkey business, but this adds complexity and has a cost in speed. Microsoft™® decided that coding was easier, speed to be gained, by sticking the desktop in with the kernel... except all manner of crap can access the desktop, including the user. So the architecture is compromised from the outset.
 

olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
8,165
14,975
The Arm of Orion
But let's put it this way: Microsoft is building a feature into Windows that is monitoring and logging a ton of data about you and the way you use your PC. Traditionally, we’d call this “spyware.”
That's what it really is.

Data is the new gold. It's been for decades now. Micro$oft was hard at work data mining as far back as Windows 95, if not earlier. At the end of the W95 install there was a survey that the user could fill out and send to M$, which contained all kinds of info about the machine and the software used. This was satyrised by the editors/writers of one computing magazine who suggested editing the file –it was a simple, unencrypted .txt file– prior to sending it so that M$'s database would have entries such as:

Operating System: What's it to you! 95 Word processing program: Spiderman's Secret Decompiler. &c.

The spying only got worse with the advent of the online software "activation", with the excuse of preventing piracy.

In the mid-2000's there was also Google Desktop which aimed to do the same thing this new Recall crap is doing, only the tech wasn't as advanced; still, Google was syphoning all Google Desktop's user's data into their own servers. Heck, Google's logo at the time had little black dots in the O's to resemble eyes... yeah, as in EYE watch you! And they had the effrontery to have "Don't be evil" as their slogan. Just rubbing it in people's faces, because nothing gives more pleasure to diabolical narcissists than the act of showcasing their evil in front of everyone and tell them at the same time that they are getting away with it and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

There's a reason I'm still running Windows 7.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
20,666
48,771
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
Really doesn't matter what system or tech you use. Everything is spying on you, or has the potential to do so, with the front line being your smartphone. There's "smart" technology on your home appliances that report on you. Your ISP reports on you. Every place that you shop reports on you. Your bank reports on you. Everything you write on line is potentially open to be read. If you have any digital presence your data is being gathered for study and hopefully some sort of exploitation, generally financial. Every click or swipe that you make is analyzed for meaning, what it says about your personality, possible financial status, etc, and goes into the slurry that informs others how best to use you.

That's just how it is these days.
 
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woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
12,643
20,150
SE PA USA
P'raps, but 40 years hassle free computing overrrides the occasional jitter.

Plus I never signed up for Ashley Madison...
I agree. Apple was my work computer for five years, never had security issues, but, then again, I’ve never had security issues on my PC’s, either. Apple skates on having a much smaller installed base, so they are not as big a target for security thieves.
 
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jpmcwjr

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May 12, 2015
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I agree. Apple was my work computer for five years, never had security issues, but, then again, I’ve never had security issues on my PC’s, either. Apple skates on having a much smaller installed base, so they are not as big a target for security thieves.
So, you were caught in the huge data theft and subsequent dump/posting of all user info? Sorry to hear that,..

Yep, smaller user base, but better security.