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The P logo is a Peterson's but I guess the confusing thing is the fact that the stem has Great Britain stamped on it. Petersons did make pipes in the UK and those marked Great Britain were the last marks in the dating timeline which would mean that the pipe was made sometime in the 1950's to the very early 60's.
I agree, the stem to mouthpiece connection looks a little strange as they are both bevelled inwards. Maybe one of the many other Pete Nuts will be able to shed some light on this.
A few of us on another forum were discussing that very pipe a few days ago. Most of us thought is was a cobbled together pipe. The reason being no stampings on the stummel. If it is a true Peterson, it will have been made before 1949. After 1949 they made the shank a bit thinner.
So it's kind of a Peterson, albeit from two different pipes?
The stem to mouthpiece connection sure doesn't look right as excav8tor and dd951 said.
The stem to mouthpiece connection sure doesn't look right as excav8tor and dd951 said.
Yes, I agree with Arthur, Chuck and excav8tor. Seems a 999 from the early years after Peterson modified this shape evolving it from the first 999 ball one, coupled with an english Pete stem. The rounded ends seem a crude device for coupling the shank with a different diameter stem, maybe having in mind certain meerschaum Petes or the '70s Dunmore ones.
The first 999s were pipes like the Author ones, with a spheric bowl. Then, after 1942 the double slot was added to the shape, then the straight upper profile instead the original rounded one, then the thinner shank...
The first 999s were pipes like the Author ones, with a spheric bowl. Then, after 1942 the double slot was added to the shape, then the straight upper profile instead the original rounded one, then the thinner shank...
Following on from Skippers comments,here is a link to my albums showing the 999 Author style referred to by him.A 'Chubby' 1946.
Link to The Sandpiper photo album
or try this http://sandpiper.smugmug.com/Hobbies/Patent/Sandpipers-Peterson-Museum/12841363_okxwf#926515028_2StQg-M-LB
Link to The Sandpiper photo album
or try this http://sandpiper.smugmug.com/Hobbies/Patent/Sandpipers-Peterson-Museum/12841363_okxwf#926515028_2StQg-M-LB
I just took a look at sandpiper's collection. If you do look at it make sure you have a large bath towel under your chin 'cos drool on your keyboard doesn't do it any good at all.
That is one impressive collection. If I came to see it in person, I'd have to have my pockets sown up and my hands cuffed behind my back....it's simply awesome.
That is one impressive collection. If I came to see it in person, I'd have to have my pockets sown up and my hands cuffed behind my back....it's simply awesome.
Wow, Jim! That's a collection!
And here you have an early 999. MADE IN IRELAND in two lines and 999 on the starboard side of the shank. No date hallmarks in the silver ring.
It's from a friend's collection.
BTW, was Natural a series name? Te bowl hasn't another markings as those described-
And here you have an early 999. MADE IN IRELAND in two lines and 999 on the starboard side of the shank. No date hallmarks in the silver ring.
It's from a friend's collection.
BTW, was Natural a series name? Te bowl hasn't another markings as those described-
Thanks for posting that photo of your friends 999 Erardo,it is very interesting.I had never seen one like that before.It is almost a hybrid between a standard 999 and a Deluxe system.
The 'Natural' designation to my mind referred to the finish,as it can be found on various series.
The 'Natural' designation to my mind referred to the finish,as it can be found on various series.
Ah!that explains it better,your friends pipe stem in the photo, was not pushed fully in.That accounts for my confusion in referring to the deluxe's, which have the extended stem, to allow for wear.
Thank you for the clarification.
Thank you for the clarification.
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