Quebec Hikes Tobacco Tax Today.

[georged]

And when the tobacco is gone, some new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

... and when THAT is gone, another new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

... and when THAT is gone, another new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

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I'm sure you get the idea.

Why now, when humans have been around for millions of years and power-addicted narcissistic sociopaths have existed among them the entire time?

Because the technology to implement sufficient observation and control didn't exist until now.

 

[AroEnglish]

Aro that whole area has been under heavy redevelopment. Vancouver has no choice. They can only grow skywards. Available rental properties are less than 1%.

Mike

Yeah I've still got family who live there and it's outrageous what some of them are paying for housing.

 

[Nitrane84]

And when the tobacco is gone, some new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

... and when THAT is gone, another new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

... and when THAT is gone, another new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

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etc

I'm sure you get the idea.

Why now, when humans have been around for millions of years and power-addicted narcissistic sociopaths have existed among them the entire time?

Because the technology to implement sufficient observation and control didn't exist until now.

I can't get over the level of tax levied on us in this country. It's amazing.

 

[BriarLinedMeer]

100 USD for a 2oz tin here in NZ, get onto the homegrown team, its really the only way to protect our beloved hobby. (Until we get Australia levels of police state, then they'll kick your down)

 

[BriarLinedMeer]

And when the tobacco is gone, some new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

... and when THAT is gone, another new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

... and when THAT is gone, another new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

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etc

I'm sure you get the idea.

Why now, when humans have been around for millions of years and power-addicted narcissistic sociopaths have existed among them the entire time?

Because the technology to implement sufficient observation and control didn't exist until now.

If it was a health thing, they'd say "end of year, no more, full stop, end of."
But they keep raising the prices, sitting in their comfy chairs in parliament, with full bellies, strong social structures, full bank accounts, warm houses, and a secure job.

Meanwhile, that poor fulla in northland whom has nothing else but a smoke to look forward too gets told "you gotta stop mate, we'll keep increasing the prices until you do so"

Education and raising the standard for all is a much better way to tackle these issues, it also has the benefit of assisting with the inequality accross the board, rather than another poor tax.

 

[crusader]

Take note "It can't happen here" folks.

 

[FLDRD]

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I've come across that whole leaf site before and IIRC, the prices seemed so reasonable that I was suspicious of credibility.

Anyone vouch for said credibility?

 

[Ahi Ka]

I've come across that whole leaf site before and IIRC, the prices seemed so reasonable that I was suspicious of credibility.

Anyone vouch for said credibility?

I have ordered from them in the past. I also used totalleafsupply.com. If you are a bit hesitant as to whether or not the site is legit, and fair call given that I’ve heard there are a couple of fraudulent ones out there, go over to the fairtradetobacco.com forums and look at what they say. Also follow the link from that forum if needed as WLT run it.

 

[AJL67]

It's for your health. You're welcome.

 

[AroEnglish]

To the Aussies and Kiwis: are visitors allowed to bring tobacco with them when visiting your countries? And if so, are the visitors allowed to mail tobaccos to citizens within that country?

Just want to be prepared if I ever make it to one of your countries.

 

[Ahi Ka]

To the Aussies and Kiwis: are visitors allowed to bring tobacco with them when visiting your countries? And if so, are the visitors allowed to mail tobaccos to citizens within that country?

Just want to be prepared if I ever make it to one of your countries.

To NZ you can bring 50g per adult tax free (OZ might be 30g from memory). Anything more than that and you will be charged duty.

You can mail tobacco to whoever you want within NZ, however you cannot legally mail tobacco to someone in NZ from overseas.

 

[Sethology12]

130 for a carton? Christ

 

[frozenchurchwarden]

Remember whole leaf is effectively not taxed as tobacco.
There are various rules but it's basically the only way I can recommend Canadian's learn to explore pipesmoking.

 

[PaulTheScandinavian]

130 for a carton? Christ

Finland is abot 100$ per carton and $ 26-28 per standard 1,75 oz of pipe tobacco

 

[jguss]

Once they figured out that pipe smokers rarely complain…

That doesn’t sound like any of the pipe smokers I know, and I know hundreds.

 

[captpat]

And when the tobacco is gone, some new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

... and when THAT is gone, another new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

... and when THAT is gone, another new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

.
.
.

etc

I'm sure you get the idea.

Why now, when humans have been around for millions of years and power-addicted narcissistic sociopaths have existed among them the entire time?

Because the technology to implement sufficient observation and control didn't exist until now.

I believe the reason that "new Evil Things" are identified is that they need to replace the revenue stream. "Sin" taxes will never grow revenue over time unless of course the rate is raised. Politicians are addicted to money, especially when it's not theirs. Sin taxes are a politically acceptable means of raising money, after all, who doesn't like punishing a sinner? Not a new phenomenon, though technology is an enabler.

 

[Deano]

And when the tobacco is gone, some new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

... and when THAT is gone, another new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

... and when THAT is gone, another new Evil Thing will be selected by Those In Charge and every dime will be squeezed out of IT in the time between its selection and elimination...

.
.
.

etc

I'm sure you get the idea.

Why now, when humans have been around for millions of years and power-addicted narcissistic sociopaths have existed among them the entire time?

Because the technology to implement sufficient observation and control didn't exist until now.

When the criminals in charge use the term "big" the taxation begins. Big oil and big tobacco are the two big ones of the bigs for decades. If its not big, its not worth going after, yet.

 

[kcghost]

Pipe smokers never complain to government officials, but they will spend hours bitching about anything when with their buds.

 

[Sethology12]

Remember whole leaf is effectively not taxed as tobacco.
There are various rules but it's basically the only way I can recommend Canadian's learn to explore pipesmoking.

At that pointnid just recommend no one get into pipe smoking. What's the fun of just smoking a whole leaf? Canada sounds like a nightmare though. Virginia seems comparatively like paradise

 

[Sethology12]

Can't wait to buy black market cigarettes with 70% more lead in them all because big daddy government wants to play at doing a public good