I've had mixed results.
Unopened, they seem to do just fine, so far. Once opened, and then closed again, it's a crap shoot.
PSA: Check Your Tins Folks!
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Unopened, they seem to do just fine, so far. Once opened, and then closed again, it's a crap shoot.
I'm just done buying from companies that use square/rectangle tins. There is just no value in spending extra to get something that obviously no one trusts.
The ones in my cellar, I do try the lids occasionally, and never an issue yet. :::knock on wood:::
But, the bulks that I do have in my cellar will only ever go into jars. I do not have any issues or fears that the weight of the jars will bust through my floor, nor is space an issue, because I don't live in my car or an RV.
I am not afraid of bags. I did put most of my burley crop from a few years ago in big bags that could hold the whole leaf bunch. But, I have jars, so any new batches of ready to smoke stuff will go into those.
I have no issues with how others want to store their tobaccos. However, I think it is sort of foolish to buy the square/rectangle tins. Companies that are sticking with these and not selling them in bulk are more about the money than their products. IMO.
The ones in my cellar, I do try the lids occasionally, and never an issue yet. :::knock on wood:::
But, the bulks that I do have in my cellar will only ever go into jars. I do not have any issues or fears that the weight of the jars will bust through my floor, nor is space an issue, because I don't live in my car or an RV.
I am not afraid of bags. I did put most of my burley crop from a few years ago in big bags that could hold the whole leaf bunch. But, I have jars, so any new batches of ready to smoke stuff will go into those.
I have no issues with how others want to store their tobaccos. However, I think it is sort of foolish to buy the square/rectangle tins. Companies that are sticking with these and not selling them in bulk are more about the money than their products. IMO.
Right. Makes me wonder if it's actually "anaerobic" fermentation if there's still oxygen in the tins (ie: in contact with the leaf). Maybe that's a topic for another ad nauseam thread.
There's nothing wrong with rectangle tins as long as you open them right away and smoke the contents, or transfer them. I'd still buy them, they just aren't appropriate for storage.
Buy it... and just smoke it right away... like a psychopath? Ha ha. I don't think I have ever popped a tin in under a year.
Yeah me neither, but it must be possible in theory.
Anaerobic conditions occur once the aerobic bugs have consumed all of the oxygen. Then the anaerobes can go to work.
I've done it often, with frequent pleasant results.
You're missing out dude. Tobacco tastes best fresh. I mean, who eats aged salad?!
I was at a fundraiser gala last night, and I'm pretty sure, from the looks of it, that everyone was eating aged salad.
Ive taken up pipe again after 13 years and a transatlantic move. Waiting for tobacco to age isnt an option. I dont like rectangular tins but a few tobacco blends I like are in them. I just put it in jars. The blends also aren’t available bulk. I think the design is silly but I guess I missed the call from the factory
You should really try encapsulating them in epoxy.Ive taken up pipe again after 13 years and a transatlantic move. Waiting for tobacco to age isnt an option. I dont like rectangular tins but a few tobacco blends I like are in them. I just put it in jars. The blends also aren’t available bulk. I think the design is silly but I guess I missed the call from the factory
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So, since I haven't checked my cellar in a while, I gave it a once over. Like mentioned in my previous post I do it about once a year. Usually, to remind me what I have sitting around. This thread was a good reminder to take a look.
I currently have 17 square tins in my cellar (mostly Samuel Gawith), and they range from 2013 to 2017 (production date), and all and the seals are all intact. I have 35 round tins of the same style (mostly Dunhill and Hearth & Home blends), and they range from 2012 to 2023, and all the seals are intact. I have 32 round tins of the McClelland, C&D, GLP style, and they range from 2012 to 2018, and all of their seals are intact.
I see no issues with any of my tins except one Dunhill tin that has a dent on the top edge, and looks like the side is pushed out a bit (like when you put your pipe tool in to pop it open), but the seal is still intact. I have one Seattle Pipe Club tin that some stuff on the bottom that looked like it was rusting through, but the stuff flaked off. All appears well with the cellar at this time.
Since I was going through the cellar I figured I'd pop a tin of something I haven't had in a long time. I pulled out a 100g tin of Mac Baren HH Highland Blend (which was discontinued in 2013). I bought a few tins knowing it was going to be discontinued, so this tin was from 5/9/13. It had that sweet sound of the sealing popping, and the tobacco was in ready to smoke condition. So everything appears well in my cellar as it sits currently.
I currently have 17 square tins in my cellar (mostly Samuel Gawith), and they range from 2013 to 2017 (production date), and all and the seals are all intact. I have 35 round tins of the same style (mostly Dunhill and Hearth & Home blends), and they range from 2012 to 2023, and all the seals are intact. I have 32 round tins of the McClelland, C&D, GLP style, and they range from 2012 to 2018, and all of their seals are intact.
I see no issues with any of my tins except one Dunhill tin that has a dent on the top edge, and looks like the side is pushed out a bit (like when you put your pipe tool in to pop it open), but the seal is still intact. I have one Seattle Pipe Club tin that some stuff on the bottom that looked like it was rusting through, but the stuff flaked off. All appears well with the cellar at this time.
Since I was going through the cellar I figured I'd pop a tin of something I haven't had in a long time. I pulled out a 100g tin of Mac Baren HH Highland Blend (which was discontinued in 2013). I bought a few tins knowing it was going to be discontinued, so this tin was from 5/9/13. It had that sweet sound of the sealing popping, and the tobacco was in ready to smoke condition. So everything appears well in my cellar as it sits currently.
Here's a few pics of the tin I just opened. Looks good after 10 years in the cellar.
That's what I've been doing. Since I'm just going ahead and putting everything in Mylar (except the C&D/GLP, McClelland, and Rattray's tins), I'm popping things I've never gotten around to trying before, like Dunhill Durbar and Astley's No. 44 to name a couple. I used to try to only pop tins once in a while, but now I have ready access to most of what I've been cellaring all these years, and the upshot is more shelf space in my basement. It's all gotta get smoked anyway. Will transferring it to Mylar alter the aging process? Maybe. I don't really care. I've got a lot of good McClelland Virginias that can sit a stew in their tins until I'm in my twilight years. I'll graze on all the rest over the coming decades.
Also! I'm finally going through and inventorying everything in a spreadsheet and weighing it all. I know everyone isn't going to want to go to such extremes, but for me, it's all in the name of reducing clutter, which I abhor, and ultimately making it easier for me to find what I'm looking for and enjoying the variety of blends I have on hand; not digging through heaps of jars. I counted my glass jars yesterday and it was 152, which means that number was close to 200 when I started this process. Insanity. I could see myself falling deeper and deeper down the glass jar rabbit hole a few years ago. Now...why do I need to cellar so much tobacco in the first place? That has a lot to do with the fact that I live in Canada and I tried to get as much as I could while the getting was good. That's a topic for another thread I guess.
These 100 gr MacBaren tins hold up very well!!
No problems with those. In general, the round tins seem to hold up better. Being circular, the pressure is better equalized around the circumference. Still, even these round tins occasionally fail.
I agree. As far as the paint cans go they seem to rust from the inside because they are not coated like the C&D tins. So even if the seal remains good they will start to rust from the inside. This also goes for the Rattrays 100gr tins.
I had one 100gr Rattray's tin, from the mid 90's, fail at the point where the metal had been scored for the pull top. The others have been OK so far. Stuff happens. It's a fact of cellaring. I don't worry about my round tins. So far they've held up. But most of those are older and stouter in construction.
Pre 2004 C&D tins were poor quality. By 2005 they were properly coating the interior, except at the solder joint, which improved things, but didn't guarantee anything. All of that has been bagged, and I'm glad I did that since some 16 oz C&D tins from 2010 and 2011 were corroding at that joint. Not all C&D blends corrode their tins, but I have a lot of Haddo's and that's one that does corrode tins.
Even some McClellands tins from the '90's fail, and those were better quality than C&D.
Ultimately we'll make our own decisions and get what we get.