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[turbomunkey]

Before cigarettes became a pre-rolled commodity, men without enough time to smoke a whole pipe would roll their tobacco into a French paper. Tobacco was tobacco. But, I'm not sure when inhaling the smoke was started as an encouragement.

RYO bagged tobaccos, labelled pipe tobacco, like OHM and D&R, are natural leaf.
American Spirits are also a natural tobacco also.

The main difference between pre-rolled cigarettes tobaccos and all other tobaccos is that the cigarette manufacturers have to control nicotine and tar content as per government regulations, so they press the juices from the tobaccos, reformulate it and then rehydrate the cellulose of the leaf back with the mixture.

So, tobacco is tobacco, period. But, whether you want to delude yourself into thinking that any tobacco inhaled directly into your lungs is better or worse... is your call. I think we've learned from the vape industry that there is no safe alternative when it comes to your lungs.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but are pre-rolled cigarettes not full of added chemicals including fire retardant agents that inhibit cigarettes from starting fires? That’s my concern. Supposedly a cigar or pipe tobacco is just that, tobacco, as opposed to a cigarette which is tobacco plus chemicals and additives. Thanks

 

[warren]

Yup, I've smoked MCD's exclusively ... for many years. But, I smoke them for the flavor, the carcinogens are the same as for pipe tobacco or standard cigarettes. Once you put flame to tobacco or pretty much anything, the carcinogens are unleashed, campfires, barbecues, camp fires, forest fires. etc. The carcinogens are released by the combustion.

Wanna test your genes? Become a firefighter.

 

[turbomunkey]

Yup, I've smoked MCD's exclusively ... for many years. But, I smoke them for the flavor, the carcinogens are the same as for pipe tobacco or standard cigarettes. Once you put flame to tobacco or pretty much anything, the carcinogens are unleashed, campfires, barbecues, camp fires, forest fires. etc. The carcinogens are released by the combustion.

Wanna test your genes? Become a firefighter.

It appears those are no longer made. Sad face.

 

[bullet08]

Dunhill Superior Mild used to be my favorite when all my friends' parents had vegetable store or stationary back in NYC. Then it was either Export "A" or Gitane. But Marlboro Red has my heart.. and lung.

 

[spicy_boiii]

I was a Nat Sherman gold if I stepped up into the premium. Otherwise my usual "Treat yo' self" was Camel Turkish Golds.

Export A cigarettes were really good the time I tried them.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but are pre-rolled cigarettes not full of added chemicals including fire retardant agents that inhibit cigarettes from starting fires? That’s my concern. Supposedly a cigar or pipe tobacco is just that, tobacco, as opposed to a cigarette which is tobacco plus chemicals and additives. Thanks

Pease, Russ Oellete, and hust about all blenders have posted that almost all pipe tobacco is cased. Sure, there are some blends that don’t have a casing, but burleys and Virginias are cased.
Cigarette tobacco also has a casing, for various reasons, but yeh, they get whacky on cigarettes, with hints of artificial cherry and all sorts of stuff. But, so do most pipe tobaccos. I can get hints of some blender’s proprietary casings on most non-aromatic blends.

Whether cigarettes is worse than pipe tobaccos depends on what makes one worse than the other. I’d also have to see ingredients.

But yeh, I wouldn’t be crumpling up Marlboros in my pipe. But some OHM Turkish in a bag,

 

[lochinvar]

Used to love Players, Karelias, Gauloises and especially Turkish Specials. Not sure if any are even brought in anymore.

 

[anotherbob]

Let me rephrase, is there a large difference between the two?

huge difference.

 

[anotherbob]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but are pre-rolled cigarettes not full of added chemicals including fire retardant agents that inhibit cigarettes from starting fires? That’s my concern. Supposedly a cigar or pipe tobacco is just that, tobacco, as opposed to a cigarette which is tobacco plus chemicals and additives. Thanks

you can find the list of stuff they add online. And it's pretty freaking nuts.

 

[turbomunkey]

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well I bit the bullet and grabbed a bag of three sails, also another tin of early morning pipe since I was paying shipping anyways. Cheers to everyone who’s relied.,

 

[Chasing Embers]

well I bit the bullet and grabbed a bag of three sails, also another tin of early morning pipe since I was paying shipping anyways. Cheers to everyone who’s relied.,

You'll like it in a pipe too, I love multipurpose tobacco. I chew twists more than smoke them.

 

[edger]

Black Russians from Nat, English Ovals, and Woodbines. May they Rest In Peace.

 

[warren]

appears those are no longer made. Sad face

Altria purchased the company. I'm still able to purchase the MCDs. If they become unavailable up here I'll either find another brand or quit cigarettes which will increase my disposable income considerably.

 

[edger]

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My wife uses one of those big chrome Tops rollers and the pre-made tubes. We can only get tins of Drum locally. Three Sails is all virginias, and that sounds tasty. Thanks for the tip.

 

[warren]

Checking availability around the web I see I might have to go mack toe my old standby, Export As.

 

[Ahi Ka]

Let me rephrase, is there a large difference between the two?

another way to interpret this could be to ask what is the difference between inhaling tobacco smoked in a pipe as opposed to smoking said tobacco as RYO? I think I read recently that in a pipe there is a 5x greater surface area of tobacco being burnt.

 

[condorlover1]

Woodbine's are still around. I think Players Weights and Park Drive have long ago bit the dust. I was rather fond of Piccadilly No. 1 in slide packs of 25 but mostly I would roll my own. The preferred tobacco for this past time were either Old Holborn or Golden Virginia. Neither are sold in the U.S and I knocked the old 'Coffin Nails' on the head years ago. I am told that Three Sails is meant to taste like Three Castles although I could never quite see it since the Three Castles I remember was a very fine bright Virginia shag. Back to slicing plugs!

 

[turbomunkey]

You'll like it in a pipe too, I love multipurpose tobacco. I chew twists more than smoke them.

I’m not sure what a twist is. I did some DD apparently three sails has been the topic of debate on what it is actually made for considering the leaf and the very shake cut. It seemed to be right up my alley, so I appreciate you plugging it in this thread. Thanks

 

[Aomalley27]

Pease, Russ Oellete, and hust about all blenders have posted that almost all pipe tobacco is cased. Sure, there are some blends that don’t have a casing, but burleys and Virginias are cased.
Cigarette tobacco also has a casing, for various reasons, but yeh, they get whacky on cigarettes, with hints of artificial cherry and all sorts of stuff. But, so do most pipe tobaccos. I can get hints of some blender’s proprietary casings on most non-aromatic blends.

Whether cigarettes is worse than pipe tobaccos depends on what makes one worse than the other. I’d also have to see ingredients.

But yeh, I wouldn’t be crumpling up Marlboros in my pipe. But some OHM Turkish in a bag,

Big difference between a tobacco casing (usually beet sugar to make tobacco palatable); vs the laundry list of chemical additives to cigarette tobacco (palm oil, basil oil, AMMONIA, Benzoic Acid, Ethyl Alcohol, etc).
However; burnt tobacco in itself is a carcinogen. Biggest issue is absorption rates, as generally cigarette smokers inhale smoke into their lungs, whereas most pipe smokers don’t. So while pipe smokers will burn more tobacco per use (average bowl is 3 grams, average stick is 0.7 grams); the absorption rates are vastly different (pipe smokers absorption rates were less than 50 mg per nl versus cigarette smokers 1393 mg per nl in both the Oxford study and the Norwegian clinical trials).
But there’s also the French inhale as well as retrohale, so I would assume utilizing those methods would increase one’s absorption rates, as you’re exposing the mucus and nasal cavaties to additional absorption potential.