Possibly A Bad Peterson
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Hakchuma you will get the same results with most of the factory pipes in this price range. You really get what you pay for. If you want a perfect pipe, if there is such a thing, then you will have to go with a non factory pipe and most likely spend 2 to 3x if not more.
+1 Tarheel1. Factory pipes are mass produced. While Peterson seems to have a lot of love em or hate em folks, you can end up with the same issues as other factory pipes. Savinelli produces 100,000 pipes a year, they will have issues and I have seen plenty. Heck, I have seen $800 Dunhill's with poor drilling and other engineering problems.
The notion that "correct" drilling requires the draft hole to be flush with the base of the chamber is just another of those "made up" definitions that have become disseminated and accepted. With bents, it's common to leave a little room, especially with a more acute bend, to avoid gurgle and moisture building in the airway. It's common enough that there's actually a product sold, I think by Nording, little pebbles, that can be placed in the bottom of the chamber to keep the base of the tobacco higher in the chamber.
Even with straight pipes, the draft hole is placed very slightly above flush with the bottom of the chamber in order to reduce blockage, moisture creep, while allowing a bit of cake to build in the bottom of the chamber. This in turn helps to reduce the risk of burn out at the base. It's good design.
There's no evidence to support any notion that factory pipes are somehow intrinsically inferior in quality to artisanal pipes.
Even with straight pipes, the draft hole is placed very slightly above flush with the bottom of the chamber in order to reduce blockage, moisture creep, while allowing a bit of cake to build in the bottom of the chamber. This in turn helps to reduce the risk of burn out at the base. It's good design.
There's no evidence to support any notion that factory pipes are somehow intrinsically inferior in quality to artisanal pipes.
You could try these for a buck and see if it really matters. null
This is nothin new with Peterson. I have a 50's era 120 and the drilling was a wee high magnified by 60 yrs of scraping dottle made it a bit too deep. It didn't effect the smoke other than leaving a bit too much unsmoked baccy, so, I mudded it up a bit to help with that.
Also to be fair it really battles a Bjarne 1/4 bend brandy for my favorite.
This is nothin new with Peterson. I have a 50's era 120 and the drilling was a wee high magnified by 60 yrs of scraping dottle made it a bit too deep. It didn't effect the smoke other than leaving a bit too much unsmoked baccy, so, I mudded it up a bit to help with that.
Also to be fair it really battles a Bjarne 1/4 bend brandy for my favorite.
These threads always bait me to post anti-Peterson rants. Well, I'm not doing it anymore. Keeping my mouth shut and smoking my Castello.
We find a lot of Peterson bashing on this forum. I have a pre-Republic Peterson, and I must say that it's a mighty fine pipe. These days I buy a St. Patrick's Day Peterson, and I try and go with a straight. Every so often I pick up a bent, and the draft hole is invariably misplaced--you'd think that after 150 years they'd figure it out. But here's the thing: every one of my Peterson's is a fine smoker. Sometimes the poor drilling causes them to gurgle a bit, and when that happens, I just remove the bit, (yes--on a hot pipe!) run a pipe cleaner through both parts, and resume smoking. I wish they could get the drilling right, but as far as smoking goes, they've never disappointed me.
I recently had a conversation with a noted pipe seller who said that engineering is not the most important ingredient in a great smoking pipe. He said further that he has smoked many pipes with errant drilling that smoked well and many others with precise engineering that didn't. Of the two, he said that a chamber draft hole that emerges to the left or right of center usually isn't a problem but the same high or low is.
I have nothing but scorn for the likes of Peterson, though I know many people love them. While I respect their opinion, to say that I have to spend the big bucks to get one of their pipes with correct drilling makes me want to scream, as does the sloppy, and in fact intentional, when it comes to the chamber, application of dye.
To me they are all about calculated money making, and if they can save a dollar or two by dipping, why not? But this passes a problem to the consumer, for whom they have no respect, when in fact, since they are being paid to produce a pipe, ought to be managed.
I have one gifted Peterson pipe; I've never bought one nor do I intend to do so.
I have nothing but scorn for the likes of Peterson, though I know many people love them. While I respect their opinion, to say that I have to spend the big bucks to get one of their pipes with correct drilling makes me want to scream, as does the sloppy, and in fact intentional, when it comes to the chamber, application of dye.
To me they are all about calculated money making, and if they can save a dollar or two by dipping, why not? But this passes a problem to the consumer, for whom they have no respect, when in fact, since they are being paid to produce a pipe, ought to be managed.
I have one gifted Peterson pipe; I've never bought one nor do I intend to do so.
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