Possible Shill Bidding on Tinbids?

[Don_Muertos]

Yeah, and every village had an idiot back then...

Now we have whole villages of them.

 

[craig61a]

Now we have whole villages of them.

That is evidenced in reading this thread... Mike Judge is a genius.

 

[Don_Muertos]

That is evidenced in reading this thread... Mike Judge is a genius.

DO NOT MAKE MY BUNGHOLE ANGRY! Do you have any oleo?

 

[warren]

I would only be surprised if there weren't some sellers using "shills." Such shenanigans are only human nature.

 

[sablebrush52]

I would only be surprised if there weren't some sellers using "shills." Such shenanigans are only human nature.

Sad but true. My fundamental rule regarding human behavior is that people are loath to give up an unearned advantage.

 

[Don_Muertos]

I would only be surprised if there weren't some sellers using "shills." Such shenanigans are only human nature.

Humans that do this deny their nature and abide to habit.

 

[warren]

Humans that do this deny their nature and abide to habit.

???

 

[Don_Muertos]

???

Human nature in reference to social behavior is a misnomer. Human habit is what drive social interactions. Gardening, hunting, preserving food, cooking, sex; that's human nature. Capitalizing on potential in situation is a habit.

 

[warren]

I suppose. I do think most readers will understand what I meant, general usage and such. But, thanks for the clarification.

 

[Don_Muertos]

I suppose. I do think most readers will understand what I meant, general usage and such. But, thanks for the clarification.

I was being contrary, not clarifying. Human nature as expressed is almost always an expression of human habit. A common poor perception of nature vs nurture. I'm a bit of a naturalist, I find people magnanimous in their natural state. It's the polluted, removed from nature, that are predatory. Human nature is defined as being humane, it's circular, but the truth.

 

[warren]

Human nature is defined as being humane

I've never seen such a definition. Perhaps it recently came in vogue.

Everyone acts in a predatory manner, at times. Be it siblings, competing vendors, sports competitors, rival beaus. attorneys, competing co-workers, political candidates, and, so forth. A friendly game of poker among friends will prove that.

As a copper, I was at the head of the predator hierarchy, I preyed upon predators for a living. Predatory behavior is simply built into the human psyche. The instinct for survival will bring out the predator in most everyone when placed in jeopardy. I will acknowledge that there are some who would sacrifice themselves for others. Humane behavior is not instinctive, often it's calculated or even forced on a person. That's why we must have laws, referees (cops), expensive legal systems and such. The human being is not innately humane towards others. That has to be instilled by parents, family and others. Then it must be enforced by society. Am I too cynical? I prefer to think of myself as a realist. I've seen too much of "man's inhumanity to man" to believe otherwise.

 

[Don_Muertos]

I was being contrary, not clarifying. Human nature as expressed is almost always an expression of human habit. A common poor perception of nature vs nurture. I'm a bit of a naturalist, I find people magnanimous in their natural state. It's the polluted, removed from nature, that are predatory.

I've never seen such a definition. Perhaps it recently came in vogue.

Everyone acts in a predatory manner, at times. Be it siblings, competing vendors, sports competitors, rival beaus. attorneys, competing co-workers, political candidates, and, so forth. A friendly game of poker among friends will prove that.

As a copper, I was at the head of the predator hierarchy, I preyed upon predators for a living. Predatory behavior is simply built into the human psyche. The instinct for survival will bring out the predator in most everyone when placed in jeopardy. I will acknowledge that there are some who would sacrifice themselves for others. Humane behavior is not instinctive, often it's calculated or even forced on a person. That's why we must have laws, referees (cops), expensive legal systems and such. The human being is not innately humane towards others. That has to be instilled by parents, family and others. Then it must be enforced by society. Am I too cynical? I prefer to think of myself as a realist. I've seen too much of "man's inhumanity to man" to believe otherwise.

Oh! You're an authoritarian. You do the woodsman look so well for. I know that fact is a thing authoritarians struggle with. And often adopt definitions to justify their actions differently from their "criminalized" contemporaries. You express the same attitudes as some of the more dangerous people I've had the privilege of knowing

humane
hyoo͞-mān′

adjective​

1. Characterized by kindness, mercy, or compassion.
2. Characterized by an emphasis on humanistic values and concerns.
3. Pertaining to man; human.

It's been the same definition for 600 years, I'm not sure how vogue my interpretation could be here. But with it spelled out in front of you see how humane and human are are circularly interconnected when you introduce linguistically defined fact. Colloquialism works very well for in populations that find facts are for suckers.

Yup, nothing remotely describes the character nor duties of an overseer. We usually find what we're looking. If I go looking for trouble, I find it.

 

[Don_Muertos]

This guy is not a gangster, not a drug dealer, just a normal dude and a pacifist. The song is from 1993.

 

[sablebrush52]

I've never seen such a definition. Perhaps it recently came in vogue.

Everyone acts in a predatory manner, at times. Be it siblings, competing vendors, sports competitors, rival beaus. attorneys, competing co-workers, political candidates, and, so forth. A friendly game of poker among friends will prove that.

As a copper, I was at the head of the predator hierarchy, I preyed upon predators for a living. Predatory behavior is simply built into the human psyche. The instinct for survival will bring out the predator in most everyone when placed in jeopardy. I will acknowledge that there are some who would sacrifice themselves for others. Humane behavior is not instinctive, often it's calculated or even forced on a person. That's why we must have laws, referees (cops), expensive legal systems and such. The human being is not innately humane towards others. That has to be instilled by parents, family and others. Then it must be enforced by society. Am I too cynical? I prefer to think of myself as a realist. I've seen too much of "man's inhumanity to man" to believe otherwise.

Warren,

I think you're being punked by Don Of The Dead here. Cheating people is never humane, though it certainly is human. The distinction between nature and habit is a false one in that they are not mutually exclusive. Rather, nature influences habit.

 

[woodsroad]

Well, I'll tell ya…So, whilst there is a huge amount of wealth, there is of course abstract poverty.

Maybe you mean “abject poverty”?

 

[warren]

I think you're being punked by Don Of The Dead here.

Ahh yes. But, he's entertaining. A distraction during a two day snow dump. But, now I have to dig out the tractor and go play in fluffy, white stuff.

 

[FurCoat]

That is evidenced in reading this thread... Mike Judge is a genius.

One of the greatest documentaries ever.

 

[sablebrush52]

Maybe you mean “abject poverty”?

Not if you're Elon Musk.

 

[Puffaluffaguss]

I think those of us who wanted to learn something from this thread did. We also learned alot about our fellow forum members, so I would chalk this up to a successful thread. Thank you all who actually had a constructive opinion and not a conceded remark. This thread can be closed thank you mods.

 

[jpmcwjr]

Yes, it's time this one gets locked.

But, for future reference, the thread originator has no more say than anyone else.