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Mold usually has a smell. But, sometimes with a really strong tobacco, it gets masked by the tobacco.
However, there is a lot of recent research in cigars that says that what we call plume is actually mold also. What it is exactly is just really not known. I have plume on most of my tobaccos in the cellar now, and really, I can't tell if the tobacco is just naturally more mellow because of the age or if a visible plume make any difference. I am sure, however, that it doesn't make it any sweeter. So, I personally have ruled out that it is some sort of sugar. YMMV
 

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Mold usually has a smell. But, sometimes with a really strong tobacco, it gets masked by the tobacco.
However, there is a lot of recent research in cigars that says that what we call plume is actually mold also. What it is exactly is just really not known. I have plume on most of my tobaccos in the cellar now, and really, I can't tell if the tobacco is just naturally more mellow because of the age or if a visible plume make any difference. I am sure, however, that it doesn't make it any sweeter. So, I personally have ruled out that it is some sort of sugar. YMMV
Hmm interesting. Im realy new to this tobacco cellaring. I purchased the tobacco like this. Thank you for that info. I have some learning to do.
 
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Mold usually has a smell. But, sometimes with a really strong tobacco, it gets masked by the tobacco.
However, there is a lot of recent research in cigars that says that what we call plume is actually mold also. What it is exactly is just really not known. I have plume on most of my tobaccos in the cellar now, and really, I can't tell if the tobacco is just naturally more mellow because of the age or if a visible plume make any difference. I am sure, however, that it doesn't make it any sweeter. So, I personally have ruled out that it is some sort of sugar. YMMV
I’ve seen that too, but I think cigars are in a different category in most cases, though. The reason I say that is because a lot of pipe tobacco is cased with sugar water, and sometimes that excess sugar will crystallize out, and some people call it plume/bloom, even though it’s not the same thing as is seen on cigars, which aren’t cased. And of course that sugar will be crystalline in appearance. Personally I don’t buy the idea that any crystallized sugar makes a difference in and of itself. I mean, you’re smoking the sugar whether it’s still in the tobacco or has crystallized on the surface, so what’s the difference? I do think it is a sign of age though, and some blends do mellow, meld, and change a bit with age.
Just my hunch. I could be wrong ?‍♂️
 
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Do you have some more pictures? Hard to tell from these (both in terms of angles and quality) Sometimes it's easier to judge from a bigger picture. Were all the flakes uniformly like that or is that cluster an anomaly? Sparkling is usually a good indicator that it's plume but can't be definitive.
 
and sometimes that excess sugar will crystallize out, and some people call it plume/bloom, even though it’s not the same thing as is seen on cigars, which aren’t cased. And of course that sugar will be crystalline in appearance.
But, if you scrape a little off and taste it, it doesn't taste sweet. Yeh, I got all nerdy and tried that.
Personally I don’t buy the idea that any crystallized sugar makes a difference in and of itself.
I agree. If anyone has taken a chemistry class, you'd know that when sugar burns, it doesn't smell very sweet. It's actually acrid, waxy, and horrible.... a lot like how I experience aromatics. Just nasty.
 
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But, if you scrape a little off and taste it, it doesn't taste sweet. Yeh, I got all nerdy and tried that.

I agree. If anyone has taken a chemistry class, you'd know that when sugar burns, it doesn't smell very sweet. It's actually acrid, waxy, and horrible.... a lot like how I experience aromatics. Just nasty.
Never tasted it, so I may be wrong. I just figured it was such a small amount of sugar that the smell was not noticeable compared to the tobacco.
So what does it taste like? ?
 
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