Pipe smokers live longer?

[ithelouniverse]

Well, for what it's worth (which is nothing) I have to take tons of cultural studies classes for my major. It sucks, but there's tons of videos. Anyway, EVERYTIME one of these muttonheaded anthropologist goofs take a film crew to a jungle village, they always find the oldest ahole in the village and no matter where they're at, the old bastard is ALWAYS smoking a pipe. I know it's not very scientific, and there's zillions of other factors, but I thought it was worth noting...

 

[yaddy306]

And just to clarify, my conclusion was not that pipesmoking doesn't cause ED; what I said was that a single study that shows that non-smoking males given a large dose of nicotine gum have smaller boners than non-smoking males given bubble gum when measured 45 min later, is a long way from establishing that pipe smoking causes erectile dysfunction.

 

[harkpuff]

The key here is moderation. Anything done in excess could potentially kill you.

The key is in also in taking care of yourself. Knowing that pipe smoking has the potential for mouth, gum, tongue, or lip cancer, I ALWAYS as soon as possible, cleanse my mouth and gargle well with something like Listerine and brush my teeth well after a pipe smoking session.

I highly doubt that anyone has ever contracted some kind of oral cancer after only one session with the pipe, and is probably the same likelihood with those that only have time for one, two, or possibly three bowls a week.

On the other hand I have an uncle that had a pipe in his mouth anytime he was awake for his entire adult life and never had a cancer issue. And then on the other hand I had another uncle that did contract mouth cancer and only smoked about half as much as the firt uncle mentioned.

Back in the 80's my life insurance agent was updating my policy and asked if I were a smoker. I answered by saying that I ocassionally smoked a pipe once in a while and he said "NON-SMOKER" as he checked the non-smoker box on the form. When I asked him about that, he told me that the medical professionals consider pipe smokers as being non-smokers because pipe smokers do not typically inhale and studies indicate that pipe smokers do live longer than even non-smokers. He also said that pipe tobacco is different than cigarette tobacco in that cigarette tobacco contains all kinds of additional chemicals that in themselves can cause cancer.

 

[jazzlover]

Yes, I agree.

 

[mkvillaire]

Reality check...smoke from burning plant material, tobacco, can and does cause cancer, ed, gum recession, etc. In addition, nicotine is a vasoconstrictor. Referencing a surgeon general report from 50 years ago does not override current research. As adults we make our own choices regarding risky behavior. Please don't rationalize these decisions with one surgeon general report from 50 years ago.

 

[ravkesef]

We seem to have a rash of new members coming onto the site posting about the dangers of pipe smoking. May I reiterate that this is a site for people who wish to smoke pipes. If anyone has any other purpose in being here, then I would respectfully but firmly suggest that there are various health-oriented forums that discuss and debate the dangers of smoking. This is not a place for missionaries, and perhaps we need a moderator to carefully scrutinize this thread.

 

[instymp]

I guess I should quit everything I love, I really want to die healthy.

 

[deithial]

And that's why I only smoke Tobacco with the State of California warning label. Seeings how I live in Colorado I am in the clear for all of those cancers from smoking in the state of California.

 

[escioe]

We seem to have a rash of new members coming onto the site posting about the dangers of pipe smoking. May I reiterate that this is a site for people who wish to smoke pipes. If anyone has any other purpose in being here, then I would respectfully but firmly suggest that there are various health-oriented forums that discuss and debate the dangers of smoking. This is not a place for missionaries, and perhaps we need a moderator to carefully scrutinize this thread.

Rav: If you're referring to me and have some issue with what I've posted in this thread, you ought to PM me.
I never said anything negative about smoking a pipe, because I don't think anything negative about smoking a pipe. All I said is that the fifty year old report is suspect and that there are health risks to smoking anything. That's a fact. Pipe smoking in moderation is negligible compared to smoking cigarettes, but there are minor risks and people should be aware of them. That's what my point was, and I don't see it as particularly controversial. There's no point in sweeping these health risks under the rug. Obviously we've all decided that the minor risks don't outweigh the benefits.

 

[jazzlover]

I wasn't trying to offend anybody. I was just looking for information. If this issue offends posters here then I'll take all of my health questions related to pipe smoking somewhere else.

 

[igloo]

OK ,So I can drink booze ,smoke legal pot and drink tea and coffee .But I can not have tobacco ,salt , sugar or deep fried foods , BBQ and sodas . Got it . :crazy:

 

[ravkesef]

Thanks, Igloo--right on target.

Look--let me make this clear: this is a forum for pipe smokers. Those of you who wish to confront us with the scary statistics have done so. You've said your piece. If you have something positive to say about pipe smoking, wish to recommend a new tobacco, tell us about your new pipe, or a happy or sad event in your life, please do so. But if you're not a pipe smoker, or don't wish to be a pipe smoker, or are looking for some justification to quit, or wish to persuade the rest of us that we shouldn't be pipe smokers--please stop. We're men and women over the age of 18, we understand the risks, and we choose not to be particularly troubled by them, but simply wish to pursue our pipe smoking hobby in peace. If you're carrying a portfolio to somehow interfere with our adult choice to smoke pipes, again--you've had your say--now please stop. This is the forum for pipe smokers--not for those who wish to frighten us. I can speak for no one but myself, but I suspect that the overwhelming majority of the ten thousand or so members if this forum would concur. And no--I'm not calling for a poll. You've had your say, and have nothing new to offer. You're like little children who won't stop, and keep whining "but whyyyyy?" And now, if you will excuse me, I'll be off to smoke my pipe, a particular pipe that I purchased because of something I learned on this forum, and a tobacco that I purchased because someone on this forum said good things about it. And I will believe myself to be in the company of my many pipe-smoking friends--known to me and not--who are sharing the pleasure of the hobby.
Eric

 

[escioe]

Ravskesef: I cannot for the life of me figure out which members you are addressing in this thread. It seems to me you're arguing against what you think people are saying, rather than arguing against what they are actually saying.
Who in this thread do you not think is a pipe smoker? No one is trying to convince anyone to quit. We're discussing the extent of the minimal risks that pipe smoking poses because the original poster started a thread on it. That's how forums work.

 

[ravkesef]

Sorry escioe, I wasn't referring to you at all. You misunderstood me. I confess that I do have a problem with a poster who posts info about the risks, and then when another forum member says s/he understands the risks or disagrees with them, persists in posting more negative info.

 

[jazzlover]

Eric: Are you referring to me? If so, you're directing your anger at the wrong person. I've never urged anybody to stop smoking. However, I see nothing wrong with a frank discussion of the risks associated with puffing. I can't help but notice that my simple question "Do pipe smokers live longer" has generated a gargantuan thread. To be honest, Eric I'm JEALOUS of you. You've been puffing for 54 years without any adverse health effects. Also, ironically, it's been here at this site that I've learned the most about the health risks of pipe smoking. On most other health-related sites the message seems to be that pipe smoking causes cancer so don't do it. There's obviously nothing nuanced about that.

 

[pstlpkr]

Okay gentlemen I think this has run its course.

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