Picking on Brits a Bit

Log in

SmokingPipes.com Updates

Watch for Updates Twice a Week

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

Drucquers Banner

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

Status
Not open for further replies.

MisterBadger

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 6, 2024
606
4,454
Ludlow, UK
It's based on marmalade consumption. We yanks just haven't reached the marmalade quota to qualify for a Paddington movie of our own.

A US bear story is Yogi bear, out of Jellystone park. Lol

Last year, a local butcher launched 'Paddington Bear Sausages' in his shop (basically, the usual pork with orange marmalade added). Unsurprisingly, they didn't sell well and have not reappeared this year. I mean, nobody wants to eat Paddington, do they?
 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
12,346
18,527
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
Traffic circles take a bit of getting used to. Up here it took some learning but, I think the majority of drivers appreciate the not having to wait for signals to change. The only problem we experienced was our traffic engineering division had to learn what worked with regard to circumference and curb height. Ice and snow require wide curves and slightly canted curbs. Our driving public learned to handle "round abouts" quickly. I doubt Alaskan drivers are, on the whole, smarter and better drivers than other parts of the US. Well, excepting Floridians. rotf
 
  • Like
Reactions: MisterBadger

MisterBadger

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 6, 2024
606
4,454
Ludlow, UK
How come you could understand the Scottish dialect but the Englishman could not? I'm alittle surprised at that part.
I grew up in a part of the north of England, where there are a lot of expatriate Scots. My father used to do a lot of business trips up to Scotland and we used to holiday in Scotland with the families of friends he made in his line of work. He also used to come home from his week-long trips to Scotland with comic books written in Scots dialect and that is how I learned Scots. Since then, we have made friends with other Scots, and Mrs B has learned it, too.
 
  • Like
Reactions: rakovsky

Brendan

Lifer
May 16, 2021
1,518
7,963
Cowra, New South Wales, Australia.
Last year, a local butcher launched 'Paddington Bear Sausages' in his shop (basically, the usual pork with orange marmalade added). Unsurprisingly, they didn't sell well and have not reappeared this year. I mean, nobody wants to eat Paddington, do they?

I'd take them over the 'Winnie the Pooh' "sausages" my ex-girlfriend once tried to serve me anyday!
 

rakovsky

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 28, 2024
131
162
@rakovsky
2. Birmingham, Alabama during the 80's was on the FBI's most dangerous place in the world list. The crack epidemic led to the city hiring police officers from other cities when they got fired for being too violent, which led to the world's most violent police force. By the mid 90's, with revitalization of the worst parts, those officers were being weeded back out. "Head Crackers" were how they were referred to in conversation.
So, given that this was a decades old conversation, in my memory, I assumed the officer was fired for probably roughing up that foreigner. I have another story of being a pizza delivery driver for a summer there, and I rolled through a stop sign in a rain storm trying to read street signs, and being as compliant as I could, scared to death of these officers, I still ended up with my face in a water rushing through the streets with a boot in my neck. Those guys didn't play. Who knows, maybe that foreigner was there on a diplomatic mission... not sure.
Cosmic,
That makes sense. In the US (where I'm from and live, I've had good and bad experiences with police. The best ones were either talking to them off the clock or when they pulled me over for something I did bad and let me go. Like one time one of them commiserated to me about dogs being dangerous and said he carries mace.

A funny time was when a state police officer from my own state pulled me over when I was driving in the left lane for miles on an interstate, which is an offense. He berated me about an unnamed offense, saying he'd been following me for 8 miles. I just listened and answered his questions. Then he asked me at the end if I'd been drunk driving, and I said No, and then he left me, saying, "I'm outta here", with no citation.

I'm from the rural northeast and get the impression that southern police are alittle worse. My Mom saw a cop in Charleston dragging a black youth by the hair about 10-15 years ago. She felt intimidated to say anything herself.

If the officer in your story roughed up a foreigner like your gutter story, it makes sense that he could have gotten fired for that. If he's a foreigner and gets physically abused, the natural course of action for them is to call their embassy. Especially if we are talking about someone who is either from a 1st world country or someone politically/financially well off from a poorer country, they could make a big deal about it.

I spent under a year in countries east of the EU in the 2000's in my college years being just a student, and it felt like a mixed blessing or rather put me in a weird category in relation to police there. In my personal experience it meant that even if their governments were considered authoritarian, their police were less likely to do something bad because they didn't want a diplomatic scandal.

Let's say you are the US student caught by a young-aged patrol, peeing on an apartment building wall with your local friend in the evening because you don't know where any bathroom is and your local friend has to go. So your local friend is super respectful and you don't say anything. Then one says humorously, "American blend". Even supposing that you had cigarettes, the problem with anything like that is that it's not good to be caught "bribing" an officer. So... then one young officer says to the other, "Foreigners are not to be touched," and they walk away.

But it's still intimidating, although mixed. Like the NATO-allied countries have tasers that on occasion kill people, but theose other countries don't. Instead they have flexible metal-based batons and machine guns.

3. You're right, and I remember seeing those roundabouts... which Alabama is putting everywhere now. Even now, I am still intimidated, and I will drive an extra 15 miles to avoid them. Back then... I would have probably wet myself in London, Haha. I hate roundabouts... not because I am not sure what to do in them, but because 90% of everyone else here doesn't know what to do with their either. For us... they are a stupid idea. There's one in my town that almost always has a car setting in the middle, wrecked, because the driver wasn't expecting to see that weirdness.
That makes sense. One of the scariest road designs I've seen in the US is reversible roads in Atlanta. There's a three lane two-direction road, where the middle lane is for both directions.

Practically all citations/convictions that many or most people ever get have been related to me driving a car. Parking tickets, driving right on a No Turn on Red intersection, speeding. You can say that those things were all my fault, but you can also say that driving created a situation where I was more likely to commit offenses and get cited for them than other situations.

On top of that, driving in countries with a different set of road rules/laws and police that don't necessarily follow the same rules/laws seems to create logistical difficulties. Canada is a different country, but it's very much like the US in terms of culture, legal heritage, and especially driving situations. I visited Canada 6-10 times in my life and it was always on US bus trips or family car trips and I didn't notice much different about driving there.

Then another problem is city driving. I think I never drove in NYC, because it's always been too intimidating for me. So driving in a big European city would also be intimidating. And if I haven't studied the language or road signs, it gets more intimidating.

I guess rural UK could be OK for driving. Alot of the UK has mass transportation though so it might not be necessary. But the longer I would live in the rural UK, the more convenient it would seem to have a car.
 

rakovsky

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 28, 2024
131
162
"In the case of the UK if you have to drink fast on a highway where the cars go both directions, it could feel confusing or dangerous."

Ah, the good ol' days. There was nothing quite like when you had to drink fast on the highway when cars were going both directions. Now we got all these dang rules..................................................................................

Sorry. I meant to say "drive". But if you have a beer or two it's going to make things worse.
In the UK you have to drive in the left hand lane. But if you are from the US, you are used to driving in the right lane. Let's say you have two beers and get in your car and start driving in the right lane without thinking about it. Then you get on the highway. Even worse if you are being forced to drink fast while you are on that highway. between the beer and lane changing and the car directions... very confusing.
 

rakovsky

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 28, 2024
131
162
Likewise over here but town planners seem to love them for some inexplicable reason. Here is the 'magic roundabout' in Swindon. I have actually encountered this on a motorcycle and just rode straight across it.

View attachment 356217


Jay.
That looks really bad.
Theoretically if you understand what you are supposed to do, it seems fine. Everyone just drives slow and moves in concert like ballerinas.
But alot of times life isn't like that. You get 1 dude who hasn't studied it ahead of time and wants to go to the right side of the intersection so he follows the pavement to the right.

mra.jpg

Where is the purple car trying to go to at the bottom center of the map. It looks like it wants to go straight to the right side of the map, but the mini roundabout arrow points it in a clockwise direction saying it should go leftward instead.
 

MisterBadger

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 6, 2024
606
4,454
Ludlow, UK
Then another problem is city driving. I think I never drove in NYC, because it's always been too intimidating for me. So driving in a big European city would also be intimidating. And if I haven't studied the language or road signs, it gets more intimidating.

I guess rural UK could be OK for driving. Alot of the UK has mass transportation though so it might not be necessary. But the longer I would live in the rural UK, the more convenient it would seem to have a car.
I've driven through London a few times, and as a native, it still scares the crap out of me. Driving in rural Britain has its advantages: off the main highways it's fairly quiet but in my part of UK road signs are scarce as the county council assumes that, if you're not on a main road, you know where you're going anyway. The main hazards are stray sheep and cattle, and meeting another another guy coming the other way who is not expecting to see anyone else on the road - especially big, wide and heavy agricultural vehicles. Then you have all the fun of reversing down a single-carriageway, twisting, high-hedged lane until you can find a field entrance to back into to let them pass.
 
  • Like
Reactions: rakovsky

Bassman65

Part of the Furniture Now
Nov 30, 2022
509
948
Canada
I'll never forget my first trip to Ireland. We get off the plane in Limerick after a very long flight. I made my way to the rental car only to discover I am driving a stick shift, with the set up on the left side of the vehicle. Everything is the opposite except the brake and gas. I pull out with the family - adjusting to driving on the other side of the road for me, and am immediately confronted with 7 roundabouts. My brain was doing circles - literally. We make our way to Doohan - where by the time we got to the cottage, I was truly exhausted.
A lot of fun last time I visited my wife’s family. A manual minivan. Awesome!
 

rakovsky

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 28, 2024
131
162
One thing I don't really understand about the UK is how or why exactly it has this odd extreme difference in GDP between London and a few other big cities on one hand and the rest of the country on the other. Outside a few main cities, the GDP (production per person) is like Alabama and Mississippi.

https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F53767e59-131e-4e5a-924c-bf6fc30372d2_1256x906.png


800px-UK_GDP_per_capita_by_region_2018.png
 

dd57chevy

Starting to Get Obsessed
Apr 7, 2023
168
519
Iowa
Hate to interrupt the flow , but since we are talking about driving : What is the average price of gas/(petrol?) in England these days ? I've heard it's quite a bit higher than here ( $2.70 a gallon where I am) .
 

MisterBadger

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 6, 2024
606
4,454
Ludlow, UK
One thing I don't really understand about the UK is how or why exactly it has this odd extreme difference in GDP between London and a few other big cities on one hand and the rest of the country on the other. Outside a few main cities, the GDP (production per person) is like Alabama and Mississippi.

https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F53767e59-131e-4e5a-924c-bf6fc30372d2_1256x906.png


800px-UK_GDP_per_capita_by_region_2018.png
London (and larger Brit cities, to a lesser extent) have inflated prices for everything. The money turnover per capita is therefore much higher. They also trade in things that don't exist, like commodity futures, and currency values which have no intrinsic value and are real only because of consensual make-believe that money is actually worth anything (or even exists, outwith electonic binary blips in the cyber-aether). Out in the sticks, we only produce things that are real, such as food, which economists don't appear to esteem so much. Well that's how I see it anyway, but then I'm only a peasant.
 

JoburgB2

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 30, 2024
245
947
Dundee, Scotland
Hate to interrupt the flow , but since we are talking about driving : What is the average price of gas/(petrol?) in England these days ? I've heard it's quite a bit higher than here ( $2.70 a gallon where I am) .
I cannot comment on the price in England. But here in Dundee (in Scotland), the last time I noticed about 3 weeks ago, it was £1.319/litre at Tesco on Riverside Drive. That will roughly be the equivalent of US$6.29 per US gallon.
 

rakovsky

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 28, 2024
131
162
London (and larger Brit cities, to a lesser extent) have inflated prices for everything. The money turnover per capita is therefore much higher. They also trade in things that don't exist, like commodity futures, and currency values which have no intrinsic value and are real only because of consensual make-believe that money is actually worth anything (or even exists, outwith electonic binary blips in the cyber-aether). Out in the sticks, we only produce things that are real, such as food, which economists don't appear to esteem so much. Well that's how I see it anyway, but then I'm only a peasant.
That explains the high production levels in London and a few other big cities- London is a major world capitol with major world capital.

But when it comes to the rest of the country, it's not enough to explain why it would be like Alabama or Mississippi or even less productive. Alabama and Mississippi and other US cities outside of NYC, aren't inflated in their prices compared to London, nor are they major traders in "soft" assets like currencies and "futures."


So, let's look at the Wikipedia article on the city of Bristol, one of the top UK cities for GDP:

Bristol is one of the eight-largest regional English cities that make up the Core Cities Group, and is ranked as a Gamma level global city by the Globalization and World Cities Research Network, the fourth-highest-ranked English city.[165] In 2017 Bristol's gross domestic product was £88.448 billion.[166][167] Its per capita GDP was £46,000 ($65,106, €57,794), which was some 65% above the national average, the third-highest of any English city (after London and Nottingham)

tumblr_n84i32TiZK1rasnq9o1_500.png


The GDP in New Mexico in 2023 was $64,000, Michigan was at $67.000. Alabama's GDP is $60,000.

So Bristol is kind of on the mid-low end of US GDP.

Now let's look at GDP of UK regions:

440px-UK_GDP_per_capita_by_region_2018.png


Any region outside of Inner and Outer London on that list has a lower GDP/GRP than Alabama.

I'm not trying to be negative, rather it's alittle surprising and confusing for me. I would normally expect it to be comparable to someplace at least average in the US like Michigan. Basically I would expect places outside London and a few other top UK cities to have higher GDP than they do, and I wouldn't expect the disparity to be as extreme as it is. I don't really know what is going on with that, like is industry and production outside those top cities basically sheep pastures, brickworks, and fishing? I heard it has to do with a policy that resulted in production shipping to London, but I haven't studied it a lot.

I'm not trying to be very judmental about it- certainly there are alot of places in the world much poorer than rural UK, and there are times when 1st world countries get economic depressions.
 
Last edited:

rakovsky

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 28, 2024
131
162
I cannot comment on the price in England. But here in Dundee (in Scotland), the last time I noticed about 3 weeks ago, it was £1.319/litre at Tesco on Riverside Drive. That will roughly be the equivalent of US$6.29 per US gallon.
Interesting. But the British Lb. is doing alot better than the dollar I think. I wonder why. Just the US got a lot of inflation and bad spending decisions in the last 20 years I guess?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.