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Briar Lee

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…and rearrange it all until it was as she liked it, not necessarily how it was. All of Roy Stryker’s kids did it. Memorable photos, but they were being produced to sell government programs, not as an an ethnography or representation of reality. Read up on Stryker’s instructions to the photographers working for him. Hell, Walker Evans would kick the po’ folk out of the houses just so that he could rearrange everything to his liking!p

As for film vs digital: Nobody except some photographers care what camera, lens, shutter speed etc were used. Viewers respond to the image. Process and intent are meaningless.

As for Stryker, he helped the poor, as best he could.

All dictators ban cameras and newspapers for this reason.

This led to the overthrow of the militarists of the Empire of Japan.

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warren

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Nobody except some photographers care what camera, lens, shutter speed etc were used. Viewers respond to the image.
This is the reality of the working photo-journalist. I dabbled but, wildlife shooting was my choice. Only two unbreakable rules; 1) be there! and 2) be ready (anticipate). Of course the lens you really want will be at home! So, pick your perspective and capture the best shot possible. :sher:

All dictators ban cameras and newspapers for this reason.
Not true. Hitler had favorite shooters as did Stalin. They used personally selected photographers to present the image they desired. Hell, that's why US presidents select an official photographer. No dictator/politician wants unflattering photos circulating in public. Photographs are necessary for the proper image.
 

Briar Lee

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This is the reality of the working photo-journalist. I dabbled but, wildlife shooting was my choice. Only two unbreakable rules; 1) be there! and 2) be ready (anticipate). Of course the lens you really want will be at home! So, pick your perspective and capture the best shot possible. :sher:


Not true. Hitler had favorite shooters as did Stalin. They used personally selected photographers to present the image they desired. Hell, that's why US presidents select an official photographer. No dictator/politician wants unflattering photos circulating in public. Photographs are necessary for the proper image.

Yes, the fascist government has their own propagandists with the latest and best gear.

But no unauthorized ones, or it’s bad.

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They executed the German soldier with a machine gun in 1969 for war crimes.
 

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I've got to admit that back when I was considering taking up the hobby of Civil War Reenacting, my thoughts were to kit up as one of the traveling photographers of that war (many of whom were from Brady, but not all).

Never did get so far as to try to build a 4x5 to look like the field cameras of that day, but I was thinking that if I shot on B&W Direct Positive paper, I could get the photos of the event tourists and participants &such to them by the end of the same day.

Not having the funds to kit-out the kind of specially outfitted wagons that those photographers used, I should have been able to make do with a period tent with some extra dark-proofing inside for a darkroom.

But none of that came to pass for me.
 

Briar Lee

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Another advantage Pentax has is that all their camera bodies have internal stabilization since the K7 of 2006.

My K5 has IBIS good for four stops, built in the body.

That lets me buy almost mint fast 2.8 17-50 zooms for $100.

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The same lens new for Canon and Nikon:

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Briar Lee

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My Pentax K5 came in today and to say I’m happy is an understatement.

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I like this better than any DSLR I’ve ever owned, including a full frame Canon 6D and a 7D Mark II.

And the kit lens that came with my camera is the highest quality kit lens I’ve ever owned.

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Briar Lee

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After a day of playing with this, I’m convinced that if you don’t own a Digital Single Lens Reflex camera and want one, a Pentax K5 (or K5 II or K5 II S) with the weatherproof 18-55 kit lens is hands down the best choice.

The best reason is, after you reset it to factory defaults, anybody in the world can take stunning high quality photos using Program.



After your skill level increases, these just cannot be much excelled. The reason to own an advanced enthusiast camera is ease of using controls to adjust the camera.

The K5 had front and rear control wheels.

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Also, there is a devoted button or switch to select ISO, Exposure Compensation, Drive, Auto Focus Area, Metering Area, Single or Continuous Auto Focus, Back Button Autofocus, and Depth of Field preview.

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It’s made of magnesium, has built in flash, is weather proof, professional grade, and takes about 25 million used Pentax lenses made since 1976.

It won’t accept the latest KAF4 lenses made since 2016 but those cost so much a beginner won’t be interested.

Pentax made an incredibly advanced camera in 2010.
 
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Briar Lee

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Here's my stoopid question for today: What camera did you take the pix of your K-5 with?

Honestly, one of the best cameras I own is the one in this IPhone Pro 16.

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But you would look odd, using it for tourist shots.

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Why a Pentax K5? (Image quality was the same for the K5 II and K5 II S)

Because you can buy a thousand dollar Tamron f2.8 70-200 for it and a $250 battery grip for only $300.

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The Pentax K5 had outrageously good image quality, among the best still today for APC sensor cameras.

It was good to at least ISO 6400. They are even usable to 12,800 ISO. You got a professional grade shutter rated at 100,000 clicks that sounds like you’re part of the press pool for the President, making seven silky soft clicks a second with continuous autofocus.

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And it had internal stabilization good for four stops, on any lens. They don’t need stabilized lenses. That Tamron 70-200 f2.8 in the mail will focus using the screw drive in the camera body. With the battery grip I’ll get over 2,000 shots, plus have controls for portrait orientation.

These were top of the line, weatherproof, magnesium, $1,600 best grade Pentax flagship cameras in 2010.
 
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If you don’t have a modern DSLR camera and professional grade f2.8 zoom lens this is why you want a Pentax K5 and a Tamron f2.8 17-50 to go on it. This entire kit cost $200, which is about the sales tax on a 2025 replacement.

These were shot in JPEG in factory default settings and edited on an iPhone.

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I was a Canon fanatic for years but phone cameras replaced all of that for me.
I already knew smartphones would take over day to day candid photography 15 years ago when I started building my kit, thus the centerpiece is the timeless Canon EF400f5.6L, one of the sharpest lenses ever made (while still being very affordable when it was in production, I'm still kicking myself for not buying two copies of this lens), it's practically a telescope with high intensity autofocus and works incredibly well on the R7.

There will always be subjects with high optical demands, and the R7 is pretty darn near the perfect camera body, though at this point yes it's definitely overkill for birthdays and street photography.
 

Briar Lee

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There are better cameras than the Pentax K5 but if you’d like to play a modern day Dorothea Lange, it works.

The first rule of documentary photography is you must have a real camera.

A Graflex was enough.


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warren

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The first rule of documentary photography is you must have a real camera.
Bullsh*t! Bullsh*t! Bullsh*t!!! Empathy for your subject is a first rule. Couple that to knowing what you want to "show". The less intrusive the camera, the better the shooter's chances are of "getting" the shot, portraying the ethos of the scene. Camera and lens are not near as important, when shooting candid portraits, as eye and imagination. It's what is between the photographer's ears and the ability to "see" the result before snapping the shutter. Way too much importance is given the equipment. A great "eye" will often surmount lack of equipment.
 
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Bullsh*t! Bullsh*t! Bullsh*t!!! Empathy for your subject is a first rule. Couple that to knowing what you want to "show". The less intrusive the camera, the better the shooter's chances are of "getting" the shot, portraying the ethos of the scene. Camera and lens are not near as important, when shooting candid portraits, as eye and imagination. It's what is between the photographer's ears and the ability to "see" the result before snapping the shutter. Way too much importance is given the equipment. A great "eye" will often surmount lack of equipment.

Bullsh*t! Bullsh*t! Bullsh*t!!! Empathy for your subject is a first rule. Couple that to knowing what you want to "show". The less intrusive the camera, the better the shooter's chances are of "getting" the shot, portraying the ethos of the scene. Camera and lens are not near as important, when shooting candid portraits, as eye and imagination. It's what is between the photographer's ears and the ability to "see" the result before snapping the shutter. Way too much importance is given the equipment. A great "eye" will often surmount lack of equipment.

In St Louis Missouri on this day, there are photo opportunities for anyone with the nerve and a big black camera and lens to document current events.

Lewis Hine was invited by the factory owner to document how modern and clean and wholesome his factory was.

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warren

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I can only speak from my experiences and those related to me by both shooters and subjects. The less obtrusive the photographer the better. Of course there a photographers who need lots of visible equipment to show everyone that indeed "here is a photographer!" The lumbering cameras, many lenses, and "stuff" hanging out of the required vest, reassure the guy with the camera that everyone knows he is a photographer. Cameras are inhibiting to one degree or another. Period! 'nuff said!
 
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I can only speak from my experiences and those related to me by both shooters and subjects. The less obtrusive the photographer the better. Of course there a photographers who need lots of visible equipment to show everyone that indeed "here is a photographer!" The lumbering cameras, many lenses, and "stuff" hanging out of the required vest, reassure the guy with the camera that everyone knows he is a photographer. Cameras are inhibiting to one degree or another. Period! 'nuff said!
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