Oom Pauls

[Beowoulf]

What is it that makes an Oom Paul an Oom Paul? I thought it was just having a flat bottom but apparently it is more than that.

I always thought of the attached picture being a Oom Paul, but I guess it isn't? What would you call the attached pic?

 

[Oddball]

My Pete Oom Paul has a round bottom. I kinda figured it was more about the bend and chamber capacity....

 

[FLDRD]

Also known as "Hungarian".
This is a good example.



I have one similar to the pic and use it for VA predominant blends because of the tall and narrow-ish chamber. Also has a flat bottom. Enjoy it a lot.

 

[warren99]

The Oom Paul has a flat bottom and a near fully bent shank. Named for Paul Kruger (nicknamed "Oom Paul" or Uncle Paul), president of the Transvaal in the late 1800s during the Boer War--his favorite shape of pipe.

 

[Hillcrest]

I believe, based on my reading (could be wrong) that Hungarian shape pipes were originally Tyrolean Hunting pipes but with shorter stems so they could be smoked while working. Their main characteristic is flats sides from the bowl to stummel. They became popular with soldiers after the Boar War because Paul Kruger smoked one and his friends had one made for him by Peterson. Unfortunately, the slang name was OOM Paul for Uncle Paul. Eventually people with no sense of history or accuracy began calling everything with a bend an Oom Paul. A Bent billiard and a bent dutch are not Hungarians. To distinguish themselves from the east western pipemakers began to round out the bowl to a more cylindrical shape distinguishing the bowl from the stummel. I personally call these 'western hungarians'. They are actually full bent Dutch shapes. A true Hungarian has flat sides and bowl and stummel share the side with little or no differentiation. The Sav 604 and 620 would be in the more westernized group. Some French companies still make true Hungarian shapes. The current Peterson Pub pipe is a true Hungarian shape per Mark irwin at Peterson Pipe Notes.

Bent Dutch:

309. “Like the 309”: An Appreciation of the Dutch Billiard, Shape 4

For the 309th post, what more appropriate than an appreciation of the 309, one of the most quintessential Peterson shapes? Known from the beginning as bowl shape 4 in the catalog from 1896 to 2013,…

petersonpipenotes.org

Hungarian Pub Pipe:

138. The Pub Pipe: A New System Shape

Peterson and the oom paul go all the way back to Charles Peterson’s Patent System designs in the 1890s. But it was the friends of South Africa’s President Kruger who, in wanting to find him an appr…

petersonpipenotes.org

 

[Hillcrest]

The Oom Paul has a flat bottom and a near fully bent shank. Named for Paul Kruger (nicknamed "Oom Paul" or Uncle Paul), president of the Transvaal in the late 1800s during the Boer War--his favorite shape of pipe.

View attachment 224189

What were they called before he bought one ?

 

[Hillcrest]

Here's the original PPN article I was referencing:

206. Something About the 02 and 02BB Oom Paul Shapes

The oom paul or hungarian is an unusual shape in the briar chart, never occupying center stage for most pipemen, but like many character actors, enriching the unfolding action and drama of our liv…

petersonpipenotes.org

Here's a picture of Paul Kruger with his pre-Peterson pipe ... clearly a tyrolean Hungarian bent:

The flat bottom is a modern addition. The Top of Bowl and top of Stummel are generally equidistant. Some Hungarian shapes are more egg shaped than pot shaped.
The modern versions seem to be a combination of bent dutch and true hungarian (IMO).

 

[Chasing Embers]

What would you call the attached pic?

A full bent egg.

 

[kcghost]

The pipe you have displayed is not an Oom Paul. It has shank that is almost bent to being parallel to the bowl.

 

[Hillcrest]

What would you call the attached pic?

On smoking pipes.eu they call it a bent egg sitter.

 

[FurCoat]

My Gresham Giant

 

[Hillcrest]

What does the imprint on the side of your pipe say ?

 

[AroEnglish]

My Gresham GiantView attachment 224248

What are the dimensions of this pipe? I passed on one a few months ago and have been kicking myself since.

 

[RustiePyles CPG]

A quintet of Oom Pauls, one of my favorite shapes. No flat bottoms or sitters in the lot.

CCW from top left
WDC Wellington 1920’s

GBD Colossus Collector Prehistoric

No name meer

Peterson Pub

Alpha Shalom

 

[warren99]

A quintet of Oom Pauls, one of my favorite shapes. No flat bottoms or sitters in the lot.

CCW from top left
WDC Wellington 1920’s

GBD Colossus Collector Prehistoric

No name meer

Peterson Pub

Alpha ShalomView attachment 224268

On closer look at a photo of Paul Kruger smoking his pipe (below), I note that his pipe didn’t have a flat bottom, and while some of the recent incarnations calling themselves Oom Pauls do have a somewhat flatter bottom, they are not completely flat, unlike that of a poker or other sitter.

 

[bullet08]

Have full bent pipes, but I don't think I have an Oom Paul. Seen some nice ones, but never really been drawn to one.

 

[didimauw]

I learned the hard way how big those bowls can be. But yet hang from the jaw light as a feather.

 

[warren99]

I have one and while I like the feel and design, one drawback is that it fails the pipe cleaner test while the stem is intact.

 

[AroEnglish]

I have one and while I like the feel and design, one drawback is that it fails the pipe cleaner test while the stem is intact.

Even if you do the half twist of the pipe cleaner?

 

[warren99]

Even if you do the half twist of the pipe cleaner?

I've tried that on mine without success.