OJK BLUE or PEGASUS?

[Grangerous]

Pegasus or Old Joe Krantz Blue Label :: Pipe Tobacco Discussion

I’ve no right to crack another tin with as many as I have open but the talk of Old Joe (Blue Label) edging out Pegasus by admirers of Pegasus such as @ray47 and @marconi and @cosmicfolklore now even @dog_park_piper, another voice in the wind, have pushed me over the edge! And besides, @BROBS...

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[Puff nstuff]

Most interesting, thanks for the fulsome reply! I quite enjoyed the one packet of Pinkerton-era Granger that I smoked, so I must've been lucky and snagged a good one. It would have been probably at least 10 years old, and the flavor was a bit deeper and fruitier than what I get from the current STG, but that could just be a result of the aging.
When others mention Lane-era, is that not different from Pinkerton?
I wonder if anyone alive has, or has smoked, any Liggett & Myers Granger. Wouldn't it be cool to do a vertical tasting?
Oh, and sorry about the hijacking! That's more on me, really. Thanks for indulging me.

 

[ray47]

Ray, you and I seem to have very similar tastes. Pegasus and OJK Blue. I also recall from a previous thread that you drink sweetened tea to accompany a bowl, correct me if I’m mistaken. — I also find that hot tea with honey really makes Granger’s flavor pop for me. They compliment well. I drink unsweetened black or coffee with just cream with my C&D blends.

As for the 2014 runs I think that was about the year that STG took over or thereabouts. Please let me know what you think of the newest run. — I won’t need to purchase Granger again for quite some time. I’m well cellared. Thanks, Ray

I think I'll smoke Granger as my first smoke of the day with my morning coffee. I had to quit drinking iced tea and hot tea because it gives me heartburn. I'll let you know what I think of the current run of Granger.

 

[Akoni808]

I really enjoy OJK and Pegasus. I have yet to try OJKB. This makes want to try it now.

 

[ray47]

As for the 2014 runs I think that was about the year that STG took over or thereabouts. Please let me know what you think of the newest run. — I won’t need to purchase Granger again for quite some time. I’m well cellared. Thanks, Ray

I just had my first bowl of the current run of Granger that is manufactured in Denmark. Upon opening the tub I noticed a more fruitier scent then the 2014 version. It took forever for the new run to stay lit and that surprised me since the leaf was not all that wet. I noticed that it was sweeter then the 2014 version. The 2014 was more bitter and I noticed more of an anise taste, almost like Half & Half. The current run doesn't have that anise taste. The current run burns longer then 2014, but it took me at least 6 lights to get it to stay lit unlike the 2014 run, but that could be that the 2014 run had some age on it. I can't pinpoint it but the current run almost tastes like the current run of Half & Half only sweeter. Bottom line.... I like it and plan to buy more. I'm not much of a reviewer so I hope that what I've written will help those who want to try Granger. I give it 3 out of four stars. I deducted 1 star because of the lighting problem.

 

[Grangerous]

I just had my first bowl of the current run of Granger that is manufactured in Denmark. Upon opening the tub I noticed a more fruitier scent then the 2014 version. It took forever for the new run to stay lit and that surprised me since the leaf was not all that wet. I noticed that it was sweeter then the 2014 version. The 2014 was more bitter and I noticed more of an anise taste, almost like Half & Half. The current run doesn't have that anise taste. The current run burns longer then 2014, but it took me at least 6 lights to get it to stay lit unlike the 2014 run, but that could be that the 2014 run had some age on it. I can't pinpoint it but the current run almost tastes like the current run of Half & Half only sweeter. Bottom line.... I like it and plan to buy more. I'm not much of a reviewer so I hope that what I've written will help those who want to try Granger. I give it 3 out of four stars. I deducted 1 star because of the lighting problem.

Thanks, Ray. Well now I’m going to have to order a 7 ounce tin to compare the the 12 ounce can I cracked last week.

Most of my cellared Granger is from 2020 and newer, each can has the white warning label. I depleted the last of my cans without a warning label. Shame…cause those were safer.

So some of those may have been circa 2015-16 and I’m sure were made by STG.

Now you’ve got me very curious — and I do appreciate you getting back to me.

Happy to hear you enjoyed it, Ray—since we share similar likes of several blends, I value your opinions.

 

[AppalachianPipe92]

I enjoy both, but Pegasus would be my choice between the two. Such an easy smoke.

 

[Winnipeger]

A forum member has shared that between OJK Blue and Pegasus, he favors OJK Blue. I recently asked why. He replied that Pegasus has an off-putting sourness. This brief conversation led to a back to back bowls. In fact, I just finished both and I swim in nicotine.
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I’m glad these two blends exist, because along with C&D Burley Flake #2, these comprise my three favorite C&D offerings; Pegasus, OJK Blue and Burley Flake #2.

In short, I prefer Pegasus. There’s a tannic quality to Pegasus not found in the smoother, sweeter OJK Blue and no shortage of flavor in Pegasus. While sporting an occasional rough edge, Pegasus at once delivers a gentle walnut sweetness, a sourness, tannic bitterness, a buttered popped corn sensation, baking spices and a room-filling creamy smoke that is the very definition of comfort tobacco. It’s a masterful blend worthy of cellaring.

Your thoughts…

Got some BF#2 on the way. Thanks for the recommendation.

 

[Grangerous]

Got some BF#2 on the way. Thanks for the recommendation.

You bet! That is one fine smoke.

 

[Ky pipemaster]

Thanks, Ray. Well now I’m going to have to order a 7 ounce tin to compare the the 12 ounce can I cracked last week.

Most of my cellared Granger is from 2020 and newer, each can has the white warning label. I depleted the last of my cans without a warning label. Shame…cause those were safer.

So some of those may have been circa 2015-16 and I’m sure were made by STG.

Now you’ve got me very curious — and I do appreciate you getting back to me.

Happy to hear you enjoyed it, Ray—since we share similar likes of several blends, I value your opinions.

let us know what you think of the 7 ounce tin because if the 12 ounce is any better than the 7 I would be chain smoking the stuff

 

[Grangerous]

let us know what you think of the 7 ounce tin because if the 12 ounce is any better than the 7 I would be chain smoking the stuff

Honestly I don’t expect there to be any difference. The packaging has changed across several brands to the smaller 7 ounce tins.

 

[ADKPiper]

That's a tough one.
Splitting the baby really.
I just bought some Pegasus and it's good stuff.
But OJK is a long time favorite.
How bout both?

 

[Grangerous]

That's a tough one.
Splitting the baby really.
I just bought some Pegasus and it's good stuff.
But OJK is a long time favorite.
How bout both?

Cellared a lot of Pegasus. OJK is good but I only have a few tins, same as Burley Flake #2. -Treat blends for a change of pace.

 

[vosBghos]

I’ll have to try OJK blue before I can have a defined opinion. But I will say that there are only two blends I have tried that if I could never smoke again I would be absolutely devastated. One is Sir Walter Raleigh regular and the other is Pegasus. @Grangerous We have very similar tastes but ironically something in granger irritates the heck out of my mouth.

When I first tried Pegasus I was seriously like Yack, it seemed really sour and foul but it was fresh, after it was jarred for a few months it transformed into something I smoked 5 bowls of in one afternoon and I hadn't done that since I discovered Five Brothers. You might want to revisit if you still have some on hand...

 

[kcghost]

You need to warn people these are burley tobaccos and not for the faint of heart.

 

[LeafErikson]

When I first tried Pegasus I was seriously like Yack, it seemed really sour and foul but it was fresh, after it was jarred for a few months it transformed into something I smoked 5 bowls of in one afternoon and I hadn't done that since I discovered Five Brothers. You might want to revisit if you still have some on hand...

I said I would be devastated if I couldn’t smoke it again. I smoke it almost every day.

 

[NomadOrb]

I've been smoking a lot of these 2 lately, and it's tough to compare them. They each have their place.

OJK Blue is just a no nonsense smooth burley smoke, it doesn't have much going for it, but it's great for mindless puffing.

Pegasus is still no nonsense, but it is more full and rich in flavor and has that C&D roughness around the edges sometimes to remind you you're smoking tobacco.

Both outstanding burley blends and deserve the love they receive.

 

[didimauw]

I totally forgot about this thread, and that makes me a little sad.

But this picture is my life in a nutshell.
Back left OJK blue, back right Carter Hall.

And after years of this I can tell you for a fact pegasus has the most nicotine.

 

[NomadOrb]

I totally forgot about this thread, and that makes me a little sad.

But this picture is my life in a nutshell.
Back left OJK blue, back right Carter Hall.
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And after years of this I can tell you for a fact pegasus has the most nicotine.

Briar Fox and OJK Blue share some similar aspects in my opinion. They are both incredibly smooth.

 

[Grangerous]

Briar Fox and OJK Blue share some similar aspects in my opinion. They are both incredibly smooth.

Incredibly Smooth by CD standard. Yes No rough edges. But I smoked a bowl of Big n Burley last night and woke with a mustache.