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mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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Cultures change. The idea that you can't smoke in an English or Irish pub anymore seems outrageous. I go back to the days of smoking cars on trains and the smoking sections on planes.

I rode a Greyhound from Chicago to Ft. Myers, Fla., and had to walk off the nicotine at the rest stops, and I was a non-smoker.
 

jpberg

Lifer
Aug 30, 2011
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7,407
In the last couple decades, most of the old boy clubs have removed their smoking lounges.
Last time I went to the NYAC I headed to the lounge, and it wasn’t there.
Good God. Things have changed.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
16,642
31,194
46
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
New York is kind of everything crammed into everything else. If you can't find what you like there you aren't looking very hard, but you'll also get to see things you wish you never knew about. Or as I crudely put it once. In one block of New York you'll see people who's attractiveness makes you wonder about genetics, how many generations of hot people does it take to make someone that gorgeous. And how is mating possible for people as ugly as that other persons parents have to be?
Oh and you get used to the smell too (which anyone who complains about a pipe there hasn't thought about it's ability to cover other smells.)
 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,210
60,610
I love New York City because I got there during good times over several decades. If you live there a lifetime, you can always discover a new area, a new neighborhood, activities or events you never saw before.

However, I'm not starry eyed about it. It can be both dangerous and cruel. It requires some luck and good advice to navigate. Judicious planning and good guides are important.

The pandemic hit the city hard, freezer trucks for morgues, evacuated business districts.

Gentrification and housing prices make it difficult to live a modest middle-class life there unless you are actually wealthy by standards in most of the rest of the country. (Same with San Francisco and other major cities.)

But I have good memories of The Big Apple. It is one of a kind in the world.
 

bullet08

Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
10,182
41,402
RTP, NC. USA
When I was living there cops were assholes. But they were assholes to everyone equally. I think that's what we need again. Cops who are assholes to everyone who breaks the law regardless of who or what that individual is. Too many being let go or not even being arrested for dumbest reasons. And we see same people committing same or worse crimes.
 

Epip Oc'Cabot

Can't Leave
Oct 11, 2019
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1,309
I will be in NYC for a few days for a work thing. The hotel is tobacco free. Where do you go to smoke a pipe?
In NYC…. doesn’t the hotel at least have a smoking area outside on its own property?!? From reading the other comments in the thread… it sounds like smoking in public spots is banned… but it sure as hell seems like a hotel, even though banning smoking INSIDE would at least have a smoking spot on their private property to accommodate guests who smoke.

It that is NOT the case, I am quite shocked…… but the next idea would be to “borrow” the spot available of a nearby hotel who does provide an outdoor smoking spot to its guests.

If THAT does not even exist, I think I would mosey around, walking on the sidewalk so you are not stationary… and smoke a pipe of something with a pleasant aroma…. and if stopped or hassled, plead ignorance (leave it at “ignorance” implying you “did not know” but leaving off the end of your actual thought….. “ignorance…. a damn foolish law.” 🙂