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gord

Lifer
May 1, 2024
1,926
24,902
Prince George, British Columbia, Canada
This is a revamp and review of a new pipe I picked up and originally posted in my usual "What Are You Smoking Now" haunt, and a little challenge to have a bit of fun. Recently, I decided to buy the ugliest pipe I could find. Thought I had done so, but . . . .

Eating a bit of crow. Kinda reminds me of my blatant dismissal of Autumn Evening 8 months back or so, until all of a sudden I realized it was a great tobacco. Well, here I am again, somewhat contrite. 🤪

Took my new Mr. Brog No. 52 "Scoot" Ugly last night, and once I picked it up and held it, it weren't so ugly after all. Along with my "new" Rhodesian Meer and Savinelli Avorio, I have no pipes that better fit my hand. I'm not a clencher, but almost always hold a pipe in my left hand, changing to the right only occasionally.

Here is this pipe, a review of it below the shot, and a "Cheap Challenge" for y'all to have some fun with.


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Yup. It's a cheap pipe. And as you can see, a very big, fat one. Lots of wood. Cost me 20 bucks US and $6.95 shipping from Poland. Got it within a week. But it ain't so ugly any more.

Design: very intelligent. It's pear wood, and in my experience with this wood, it's a bit like ash. Break it in very carefully or you'll scorch it. Once it's broken in, it's great. If you scorch it, pitch it. There is a lot of wood on this pipe, and if you proceed carefully, there is very little heat eminating from the pipe itself.

Ergonomics: My Mom always said I "came out wrong". I have absolutely huge hands - for those of you with a piano perspective, I can stretch an 11th with both hands. I've short arms, long legs, at present am about 5' 5.5", and wear size 14 shoes. Was hard to knock off my feet 'till I crashed my knees years ago. Sway out of time when I play violin. Drove conductors and accompanists nuts. This pipe is made for big hands especially if you don't clench. That's for cobs outdoors, imho.

Smoking Qualities: As good as anything I own - nice easy draw (I've had only the two smokes with the installed 9mm filter, will remove it tomorrow on 3rd smoke. Reminds me of my Savinelli "Avorio" in draw with a filter; really looking forward to trying it tomorrow without. Expecting it to be even better, as was the Avorio.

It's only a medium bowl, about the same size as my Ropp J16, but got 75 minutes out of the Captain Black, about 60 with the BR, which burns slightly faster.

Construction Quality: First rate. I can't see any flaws, except, yah, I've already scorched the inner lip of the pipe, as I've done with every pipe I've ever owned. Unfortunately, a rusticated version was not available from Mr. Brogshop. This is absolutely the best smoking cheap pipe I've owned, and holds it's own with anything else I have. Apparently Poland is filled with pipe smokers, Brog caters to everyone. They have upper class much more expensive pipes - and yes, I have one on the way. I'm a fan. Don't hesitate to get one of his pipes. You'll be surprised. Oh yeah, btw, my two Brog Nosewarmers cost over twice what this boat cost, just fyi.

Amazing how an ugly duckling can turn into a swan. Also see now why many pipes I've rolled my eyes at are so beloved by their owners. Maybe one day I'll grow up, eh? But not today. Maybe tomorrow.

CHEAP CHALLENGE: This pipe has replaced my Muxiang ebony wood "Uncle Henry" as my best cheap pipe. It cost me about the same and is still a great smoker.

What's your best cheap pipe?

Rules:

1. Has to be bought new (no estates) within the last 3 years.
2. Ya can't have paid more than 50 bucks US for it.
3. Can't have been a gift from a friend.
4. Has to be a pipe you "go-to" regularly and enjoy smoking.

Have fun and cheers!
 
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SmokingInTheWind

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 24, 2024
779
4,145
New Mexico
It would be a toss up between these two. It just depends on if I want a little bit longer smoke. MM Washington on top and the slightly larger MM Diplomat below it. Both have 5th Avenue shaped bowls, which are light and good for clenching. At the time I think I paid a bit more than $20 for the Diplomat, including the added nickel ferrule. The Washington was less. These are my favorite cobs.

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gord

Lifer
May 1, 2024
1,926
24,902
Prince George, British Columbia, Canada
5' 5.5" tall with a size 14 shoe?

Have you ever walked to Mount Doom carrying a ring by chance?

Do you often whistle while you work?

:)

Ive heard good things about Mr Brog, but never tried one.
Looks good to me.

In highschool, I was 5'7", i35 pounds, rock solid and wore "only" size 12 shoes. Good athlete with a low center of gravity, and like most little guys, aggressive and nasty. Had to be. Especially as I loved playing the violin and piano . . . got ribbed (in good faith) by my buddies . . . . Got the nickname Mad Fiddler, or just Fiddler for short, for my on ice (and other) antics.

Our feet keep on growing throughout our life, and we shrink as we get older. So I say to you, "Heigh ho, Heigh hay, I'm off to work today . . . . " :)
 
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Sig

Lifer
Jul 18, 2023
2,066
11,749
54
Western NY
In highschool, I was 5'7", i35 pounds, rock solid and wore "only" size 12 shoes. Good athlete with a low center of gravity, and like most little guys, aggressive and nasty. Had to be. Especially as I loved playing the violin and piano . . . got ribbed (in good faith) by my buddies . . . . Got the nickname Mad Fiddler, or just Fiddler for short, for my on ice antics.

Our feet keep on growing throughout our life, and we shrink as we get older. So I say to you, "Heigh ho, Heigh hay, I'm off to work today . . . . " :)
My freshman year of high school I was 6' and 140 pounds.
I was on the wrestling team. We did very good for a small school. Several state champions.
By my senior year I was 6' and 185 pounds. :)
I wrestled at Penn State at 205.
With Conference Tournament Championships in 1990, 1991, 1992.
Dang, I wish I was still in that shape. :(
 
Mar 1, 2014
3,714
5,031
#1 Any Missouri Meerschaum with the plastic stem.
(The shape of the air channel on those $2.35 injection molded stems is technically near perfect, you won't see a stem that good on anything but the most highly skilled artisan made pipes).

I will briefly break the rules for the sake of nostalgia, Tsuge "The Tasting" pipes were very competently made and could have been purchased for $60 a decade ago (they're now over $100 if you can find one).

The best bargain briar pipe I've ever found was this billiard from Scott's Pipes: Scott's Pipes: S. Klein Design Technical Breakdown :: Pipe Talk - https://pipesmagazine.com/forums/threads/scotts-pipes-s-klein-design-technical-breakdown.85629/
At $80 this pipe is the closest to technical perfection of any briar pipe I have ever bought at any price.
(Scott's Pipes were only available for a short few years, the website is still up but I presume Scott Klein ended his attempt at factory production a few years ago.)
 

gord

Lifer
May 1, 2024
1,926
24,902
Prince George, British Columbia, Canada
#1 Any Missouri Meerschaum with the plastic stem.
(The shape of the air channel on those $2.35 injection molded stems is technically near perfect, you won't see a stem that good on anything but the most highly skilled artisan made pipes).

I will briefly break the rules for the sake of nostalgia, Tsuge "The Tasting" pipes were very competently made and could have been purchased for $60 a decade ago (they're now over $100 if you can find one).

The best bargain briar pipe I've ever found was this billiard from Scott's Pipes: Scott's Pipes: S. Klein Design Technical Breakdown :: Pipe Talk - https://pipesmagazine.com/forums/threads/scotts-pipes-s-klein-design-technical-breakdown.85629/
At $80 this pipe is the closest to technical perfection of any briar pipe I have ever bought at any price.
(Scott's Pipes were only available for a short few years, the website is still up but I presume Scott Klein ended his attempt at factory production a few years ago.)

Agree totally with the MMs. They're the only pipes I ever clench, especially outdoors at the range when I shoot like a dorque, am building a fire or some other mundane outdoor chore, or go outside to chase a bear off the garbage at home. They's meant to clench and replacing one is so cheap and easy.
 

PipeMake

Lurker
Jun 17, 2025
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My freshman year of high school I was 6' and 140 pounds.
I was on the wrestling team. We did very good for a small school. Several state champions.
By my senior year I was 6' and 185 pounds. :)
I wrestled at Penn State at 205.
With Conference Tournament Championships in 1990, 1991, 1992.
Dang, I wish I was still in that shape. :(
lol i havent been that short or light since i started the 6th grade.

Sheesh no wonder they wanted me on the football and wrestiling teams
 

SmokingInTheWind

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 24, 2024
779
4,145
New Mexico
This is a revamp and review of a new pipe I picked up and originally posted in my usual "What Are You Smoking Now" haunt, and a little challenge to have a bit of fun. Recently, I decided to buy the ugliest pipe I could find. Thought I had done so, but . . . .

Eating a bit of crow. Kinda reminds me of my blatant dismissal of Autumn Evening 8 months back or so, until all of a sudden I realized it was a great tobacco. Well, here I am again, somewhat contrite. 🤪

Took my new Mr. Brog No. 52 "Scoot" Ugly last night, and once I picked it up and held it, it weren't so ugly after all. Along with my "new" Rhodesian Meer and Savinelli Avorio, I have no pipes that better fit my hand. I'm not a clencher, but almost always hold a pipe in my left hand, changing to the right only occasionally.

Here is this pipe, a review of it below the shot, and a "Cheap Challenge" for y'all to have some fun with.



Yup. It's a cheap pipe. And as you can see, a very big, fat one. Lots of wood. Cost me 20 bucks US and $6.95 shipping from Poland. Got it within a week. But it ain't so ugly any more.

Design: very intelligent. It's pear wood, and in my experience with this wood, it's a bit like ash. Break it in very carefully or you'll scorch it. Once it's broken in, it's great. If you scorch it, pitch it. There is a lot of wood on this pipe, and if you proceed carefully, there is very little heat eminating from the pipe itself.

Ergonomics: My Mom always said I "came out wrong". I have absolutely huge hands - for those of you with a piano perspective, I can stretch an 11th with both hands. I've short arms, long legs, at present am about 5' 5.5", and wear size 14 shoes. Was hard to knock off my feet 'till I crashed my knees years ago. Sway out of time when I play violin. Drove conductors and accompanists nuts. This pipe is made for big hands especially if you don't clench. That's for cobs outdoors, imho.

Smoking Qualities: As good as anything I own - nice easy draw (I've had only the two smokes with the installed 9mm filter, will remove it tomorrow on 3rd smoke. Reminds me of my Savinelli "Avorio" in draw with a filter; really looking forward to trying it tomorrow without. Expecting it to be even better, as was the Avorio.

It's only a medium bowl, about the same size as my Ropp J16, but got 75 minutes out of the Captain Black, about 60 with the BR, which burns slightly faster.

Construction Quality: First rate. I can't see any flaws, except, yah, I've already scorched the inner lip of the pipe, as I've done with every pipe I've ever owned. Unfortunately, a rusticated version was not available from Mr. Brogshop. This is absolutely the best smoking cheap pipe I've owned, and holds it's own with anything else I have. Apparently Poland is filled with pipe smokers, Brog caters to everyone. They have upper class much more expensive pipes - and yes, I have one on the way. I'm a fan. Don't hesitate to get one of his pipes. You'll be surprised. Oh yeah, btw, my two Brog Nosewarmers cost over twice what this boat cost, just fyi.

Amazing how an ugly duckling can turn into a swan. Also see now why many pipes I've rolled my eyes at are so beloved by their owners. Maybe one day I'll grow up, eh? But not today. Maybe tomorrow.

CHEAP CHALLENGE: This pipe has replaced my Muxiang ebony wood "Uncle Henry" as my best cheap pipe. It cost me about the same and is still a great smoker.

What's your best cheap pipe?

Rules:

1. Has to be bought new (no estates) within the last 3 years.
2. Ya can't have paid more than 50 bucks US for it.
3. Can't have been a gift from a friend.
4. Has to be a pipe you "go-to" regularly and enjoy smoking.

Have fun and cheers!
I just checked out the Mr Brog website. They have a blasted poker that caught my eye, but it is out of stock. I will keep an eye on it. It is a 9mm filter pipe so I suspect without a filter it should have a nice open draw, which I prefer. They don’t specify stem material. Do you know what they use?
 

gord

Lifer
May 1, 2024
1,926
24,902
Prince George, British Columbia, Canada
I just checked out the Mr Brog website. They have a blasted poker that caught my eye, but it is out of stock. I will keep an eye on it. It is a 9mm filter pipe so I suspect without a filter it should have a nice open draw, which I prefer. They don’t specify stem material. Do you know what they use?

Yes, acrylic stems. The entire systems are very easy to clean as well, at least in the pipes I have. Very sturdy, not delicate. I'll photograph one taken apart late tonight after I have my third break in smoke on the boat, without a filter. No doodads or delicate fit . . . . can't speak for all of their pipes, but good sturdy peasant food, like cabbage rolls. and perogies. Their upper class pipes are probably more French oriented, like upper class Polish nobility food.

This dichotomy exists and has existed in the Polish cuisine (and art, architecture et al) since the 14th Century, when the Crown Princess of France was wed to the King of Poland. She took an entourage of 80 servants to Poland, including 40 cooks, and was expecting a rough ride in a backwater. However, the Polish took to her like the English took to Princess Diana, she never went back, and changed the shape of things Polish. That's the skinny.
 
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SmokingInTheWind

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 24, 2024
779
4,145
New Mexico
Gord,
Thanks for the details. It sounds good. Here is the pipe I am eyeing. I can tolerate an acrylic stem on a pipe if I don’t clench it much. This would be a sitting on the patio with my elbow on the chair arm pipe.

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My wife is half Polish so I should have a Mr. Brog, right? She makes delicious Guamki stuffed cabbage using her Grandmother’s recipe.

 
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Lifer
May 1, 2024
1,926
24,902
Prince George, British Columbia, Canada
Yup, Ropp Etudiante pipes on sale just squeak under the limit, and they are absolutely terrific. I have four Etudiantes, and I think enough of them that three are dedicated to a specific tobacco. The fourth, my R07, is the closest to being used as a "workhorse" but it only gets fed non-lat Orientals. Great pipe. Have to say here that it may be the sweetest drawing pipe I own. I had another, but it's an estate, and didn't smoke it much, so recently I gave it away and will eventually another Etudiante on sale, probably in the late fall.

Ropp Etudiantes are as close to a medal shoo-in as is available, methinks. Same with cobs - my two MM minis are actually small bowls, and will have to be replaced soon. They're the only thing I clench with, and I also burn the crap out of them.
 
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elvishrunes

Part of the Furniture Now
Jun 19, 2017
564
1,152
While just out of range, Eric Nording the Red pipes (or brown). Under 70$ on sale, regular 78$ on Smokingpipes. It’s a lot of pipe at that price. This guy on YT who owns a pipe store in Wisconsin does unboxing’s on camera of hiS merchandise, and they look even nicer in person. I really like the pokers and billiards.

i don’t own any, because I’m done buying pipes for now, but maybe someday. It’s a good idea to wait on new stock because they are very different in grain and rustication.