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anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
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after only a few episodes Scully stops seeming rational when she says "there has to be a rational explanation". Actually lady after the stuff you've seen the rational explanation is probably something super natural.
Also anyone else get bugged when you're playing a RPG and they have an NPC that doesn't believe in Ghost or magic when you literally have a summoned ghost following you around sitting right there. Dude what the heck is floating behind me right now? I can throw a fireball at you with this magic stick I bought down the street or at any shop in this whole world.
 

karam

Lifer
Feb 2, 2019
2,613
9,991
Basel, Switzerland
I used to watch them as a teenager with my father in law. At the the it was a groundbreaking show, i was mesmerised, they were shown every Monday night in Greece.
I revisited them a decade or more later and they haven’t aged well, very repetitive setups, and feel season 4 wad the last great one
 

AJL67

Lifer
May 26, 2022
5,491
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Florida - Space Coast
I used to watch them as a teenager with my father in law. At the the it was a groundbreaking show, i was mesmerised, they were shown every Monday night in Greece.
I revisited them a decade or more later and they haven’t aged well, very repetitive setups, and feel season 4 wad the last great one
I remember the first couple seasons were great, i remember the smoking man, the fact that Mulder had a giant porn collection and that he was told he was going to die from autoerotic asphyxiation, I also remember it started to go down hill pretty quickly.
 

Andriko

Can't Leave
Nov 8, 2021
384
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I got fed up of it (in the 90s) when everything turned into a multi part thing. At the behest of the other half, we started watching it from series one, and I found myself really enjoying it (so did she, but got creeped out). As others have said, I think it goes downhill hard and fast at some point, but the early episodes at least were some great TV.
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
16,948
31,778
46
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
I used to watch them as a teenager with my father in law. At the the it was a groundbreaking show, i was mesmerised, they were shown every Monday night in Greece.
I revisited them a decade or more later and they haven’t aged well, very repetitive setups, and feel season 4 wad the last great one
Fun fact it was originally written as an anthology series that would star different actors as investigators of some sort that ran into weird, unexplainable things, or supernatural mysteries. But the chemistry between the two actors that didn't like each other at the time was strong enough they kept them on. I feel like it would have been a better show from the creative and art stand point but less successful if they would have kept the original premise.
There is also a fan theory that can be fun to play with. That Mulder is insane and Scully is his handler. Oh and his dad is the smoking man. Kind of adds a new spin which can be interesting.
Oh and yeah I agree the early ones are still great but if falls down hard and fast latter on. Oh well it's hard making great t.v..
 
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mingc

Lifer
Jun 20, 2019
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after only a few episodes Scully stops seeming rational when she says "there has to be a rational explanation". Actually lady after the stuff you've seen the rational explanation is probably something super natural.
Also anyone else get bugged when you're playing a RPG and they have an NPC that doesn't believe in Ghost or magic when you literally have a summoned ghost following you around sitting right there. Dude what the heck is floating behind me right now? I can throw a fireball at you with this magic stick I bought down the street or at any shop in this whole world.
Is this like a delayed post from 1995?
 

Kobold

Lifer
Feb 2, 2022
1,459
5,190
Maryland
Fun fact it was originally written as an anthology series that would star different actors as investigators of some sort that ran into weird, unexplainable things, or supernatural mysteries. But the chemistry between the two actors that didn't like each other at the time was strong enough they kept them on. I feel like it would have been a better show from the creative and art stand point but less successful if they would have kept the original premise.
There is also a fan theory that can be fun to play with. That Mulder is insane and Scully is his handler. Oh and his dad is the smoking man. Kind of adds a new spin which can be interesting.
Oh and yeah I agree the early ones are still great but if falls down hard and fast latter on. Oh well it's hard making great t.v..
I didn’t know that it supposed to be an anthology with other actors.
I checked out on X Files when the guy that played T-1000 filled Mulders role. I might go back and finish it one day.
The relaunch a few years ago wasn’t so good. I wanted to like it but it was really uneven.
 

Hillcrest

Lifer
Dec 3, 2021
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19,986
Connecticut, USA
Fun fact it was originally written as an anthology series that would star different actors as investigators of some sort that ran into weird, unexplainable things, or supernatural mysteries. But the chemistry between the two actors that didn't like each other at the time was strong enough they kept them on. I feel like it would have been a better show from the creative and art stand point but less successful if they would have kept the original premise.
There is also a fan theory that can be fun to play with. That Mulder is insane and Scully is his handler. Oh and his dad is the smoking man. Kind of adds a new spin which can be interesting.
Oh and yeah I agree the early ones are still great but if falls down hard and fast latter on. Oh well it's hard making great t.v..
Mulder's Dad wasn't Smoking Man ... he fathered Mulder's sister who was implied to be the missing Hybrid link 1/2 alienDNA/1/2 humanDNA but never proven so. One underlying premise was that the CIA had cut a deal with aliens to delay an invasion by agreeing to work on a hybrid breeding program run by the syndicate. Mulder's father worked for the CIA/sydicate as well and smoking man had an affair with his mother which resulted in sister's birth. Mulder's father was killed trying to stop program.
The black oil in the eyes was alien blood/DNA. Then there was a resistance among the aliens also trying to stop the program. There were some good episodes --- If you live in a condo the episode called "ARCADIA" wherein the condo rules enforcer gets a taste of his own justice is very funny !!

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renfield

Unrepentant Philomath
Oct 16, 2011
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43,129
Kansas
I’m in the middle of re-watching The X Files. I’m on the last episode of Season 5, the last season shot in Vancouver. The LA produced episodes weren’t as good because of the budget being eaten up by higher production costs. Having the 2 leads leave later didn’t help either.

Scully and Mulder both evolve over the series with respect to their skepticism, sometimes trading roles. Still, given all the things they’ve witnessed first hand, come on, sometimes the explanation is the weird one.

The series is not as evenly good as I recalled but still way better than anything else on at the time. They were still victim of the pressures of being a weekly network show. Sometimes face-palmingly so.
 
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AJL67

Lifer
May 26, 2022
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Florida - Space Coast
I’m in the middle of re-watching The X Files. I’m on the last episode of Season 5, the last season shot in Vancouver. The LA produced episodes weren’t as good because of the budget being eaten up by higher production costs. Having the 2 leads leave later didn’t help either.

Scully and Mulder both evolve over the series with respect to their skepticism, sometimes trading roles. Still, given all the things they’ve witnessed first hand, come on, sometimes the explanation is the weird one.

The series is not as evenly good as I recalled but still way better than anything else on at the time. They were still victim of the pressures of being a weekly network show. Sometimes face-palmingly so.
There writing was also so hit a,d miss in general. The episode with the freaks in the house and the mother living under the bed or whatever gave me nightmares .. so great episode ?
 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
10,087
16,214
I pretty much quit watching TV when X Files and Seinfeld were gone. XF was good, but as others said, suffered from the pressures of coming up with weekly shows.

At times the writing was really good. One of my favorites was the "Jeremiah Smith" episodes where the "alien" was a Christ-like figure who miraculously healed a guy who had been shot, which was a forbidden action for him to take, and he was imprisoned for it.

I always suspected the conversations "smoking man" had with him in his cell were patterned after Dostoevsky's tale of the Grand Inquisitor's conversation with the returned Christ after having Him arrested to prevent the people from following Him.

When looking for these video clips I noticed someone else made this observation on YT as well, so I guess I'm not the only one who thought that.

Part 1


Part 2


There were also a lot of good metaphors woven into the stories about how power and deception operates in the world.

Then there was the XF's spin-off series, The Lone Gunmen which I think only aired for 1 or 2 seasons, but the pilot episode which aired in MARCH of 2001 was about a group within the intelligence community attempting to remotely control a passenger plane and fly it into the World Trade Center in order to blame it on terrorism. How's that for a coincidence?